[Wrestling] Discussão Geral

[fswwe]

A Radical nunca ganhou tanto protagonismo desde a WWE...

Eu sinceramente seguia com mais regularidade o Impact se eles o fizessem, e no Reino Unido, eles vao cabeça a cabeça com a WWE, porque nao aqui?

 

http://www.peticaopublica.com/?pi=STNA2012

 

Tentar nao custa!

[BDani]

no Reino Unido, eles vao cabeça a cabeça com a WWE, porque nao aqui?

A TNA sempre foi muito popular no Reino Unido, mais depressa fazem shows por lá do que a afastarem-se demasiado da sua zona de conforto na América.

[What]

Primeira vez que vejo um ppv da TNA em directo do início ao fim.

 

 

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! :prayer: :prayer: :prayer:

 

[htc]

 

Não esperava de todo a mudança de título, fico contente e triste ao mesmo tempo, porque adoro ambos os lutadores e queria que ambos vencessem.

 

O Roode beneficiava mais de ficar com o título quase um ano mas o Aries precisava do título para estes três meses até ao Bound for Glory.

 

 

E diz lá, What, as coisas não andam melhores na TNA?

[What]

Já tinha dito ao tempo que as coisas andavam melhores e andava a tentar pegar nisto de novo. Hoje agarraram-me.

[htc]

A única má notícia é que o Magnus provavelmente não vai renovar o contrato. :(

 

O homem é provavelmente um dos melhores do mundo em termos de aspecto e qualidade in-ring.

[Mister Master]

Aparentemente o PAC assinou pela WWE.

 

 

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For those of you wondering about how the ROH roster feels about Kenny King bolting to TNA, it's pretty much a negative outlook because he had a handshake deal to remain with the company. There are a lot of people in the industry (including some top WWE names I heard from yesterday) that felt that King breaching the handshake was worse than ditching his contract offer. The biggest complaint I heard was that by leaving in the manner he did, King hurt Rhett Titus the most. There were a few wrestlers who were also upset that King, despite knowing he was leaving, openly pushed for a finish at Best in the World where he and Titus would win the ROH Tag Titles strongly, as opposed to the planned finish (which took place) where King and Titus had a big come from behind miracle win.

 

Mike Mondo of the ROH roster was pretty outspoken about what King did, although he didn't mention him by name on his Twitter account.

 

From speaking to people close to King, the side of the story there is that the company wasn't offering him a raise and that he felt that the extension he would sign would prevent him from negotiating elsewhere. Sources close to King also denied that he had agreed to sign anything. ROH sources noted that would not have been the case. A number of other ROH talent signed extensions at the Best in the World iPPV a few weeks back, with King being the only one who verbally agreed and asked to have his attorneys look at the paperwork. The feeling within ROH is that King knew he was leaving and purposely avoided signing anything. The belief is that Dave Lagana helped King get into TNA, although King had worked there in the past prior to his ROH run.

 

The reality is that while the departure made ROH look bad in terms of having their pants down, it's not like he was one half of a tag team that was drawing big time money for the company. King being there or not will have no effect on the company's gates or business. ROH right now is basically there to be TV product for Sinclair and if the house shows and iPPVs do great, that's awesome because it helps that arm of Sinclair become self-sustaining but at the end of the day, it's priority is to be a TV product for Sinclair affiliates.

 

I keep forgetting to write this, but in regard to the canceled shows in the Carolinas, part of the problem after they were moved the first time is that Shelton Benjamin had a Japan tour and several others had been locked into indy dates and couldn't make the shows. The lineups were changing by the week. Ticket sales were obviously also an issue because you aren't going to cancel shows that were in the black. The ROH talents who were booked for the dates are being paid a cancellation fee and have four weeks to book themself on other shows if they wish. The plan is to return to the Carolinas before the end of the year. One person in the company scoffed at the negative reaction to the shows being canceled, joking that WWE has canceled more shows in the last two years than ROH did this year "and no one is scared they are done."

 

The ROH Tag Team title situation will be resolved at the 8/4 TV Tapings in Baltimore.

 

The Young Bucks and TJ Perkins, who haven't been used of late, are back at the next TV Tapings.

[Chopper]

Resultados TNA Destination X 2012:

 

 

1 Mason Andrews defeated Rubix, Dakota Darsow and Lars Only

2 Mason Andrews defeated Kid Kash

3 Kenny King defeated Douglas Williams

4 Sonjay Dutt defeated Rashad Cameron

5 Zema Ion defeated Flip Cassonova

6 Samoa Joe defeated Kurt Angle

7 A.J. Styles defeated Christopher Daniels

8 Zema Ion defeated Mason Andrews, Kenny King and Sonjay Dutt

9 Austin Aries defeated Bobby Roode ©

 

YES!AA!AA!

 

Editado 9 Julho 2012 por Mister Master
Colocação de Spoiler

[ekkz]

Resultados TNA Destination X 2012:

 

Obrigado pelo spoil ;)

[What]

Meteres os resultados aqui meia dúzia de horas depois do fim do PPV...

[htc]

Eu no site de notícias li Pac e pensava que era o X-Pac porque não apareceu em letras maiúsculas. :mrgreen:

 

Aries vs. Roode, MOTY da TNA.

[Dolph Ziggler]

Foi porreiro o PPV da TNA, principalmente o combate entre o Booby Roode vs. Austin Aries, mas preferia que o Roode tivesse continuado com o titulo e ser só o James Storm a roubá-lo, mas tudo bem, o Aries merece.

[Pistolas]

Aries :prayer:

[Mister Master]

Matt Taven

 

PAC

 

Sara Del Rey

 

Mercedes Martinez

 

Kayla Armstrong

 

Possivelmente irão todos para a Florida.

[BDani]

Sara del Rey :heart:, já era mais que tempo!

 

E o PAC é capaz de encaixar bem num papel à la Kofi Kingston / Evan Bourne, se se adaptar.

Editado 10 Julho 2012 por bdani

[htc]

Tirando o Backlund e Punk/Bryan a RAW foi tremendamente fraca. É impressionante como eu achava que eles iam fazer de tudo para chegarem fortes ao episódio 1000, pelo contrário parece-me sim que a TNA vai começar a ganhar força mesmo em termos de ratings basta ver o que aconteceu quando o AA foi campeão em termos de impacto nas redes sociais, parece que é pouco mas houve fãs da WWE que leram sobre o Austin Aries ganhar o título por ex. graças ao CM Punk...

 

Gostava que o IMPACT Wrestling começasse a subir nos ratings nos próximos 2 anos para chegar ao nível da Smackdown mas precisavam de duplicar a audiência o que não é de todo fácil.

[What]

Tirando o Backlund e Punk/Bryan a RAW foi tremendamente fraca. É impressionante como eu achava que eles iam fazer de tudo para chegarem fortes ao episódio 1000, pelo contrário parece-me sim que a TNA vai começar a ganhar força mesmo em termos de ratings basta ver o que aconteceu quando o AA foi campeão em termos de impacto nas redes sociais, parece que é pouco mas houve fãs da WWE que leram sobre o Austin Aries ganhar o título por ex. graças ao CM Punk...

 

Gostava que o IMPACT Wrestling começasse a subir nos ratings nos próximos 2 anos para chegar ao nível da Smackdown mas precisavam de duplicar a audiência o que não é de todo fácil.

Esta quote de um gajo do EWB resume o que pensei durante a Raw de ontem:

 

Sentences I didn't think I'd be typing in 2012: "Man, I can't wait for TNA Impact later this week to remind me what a good wrestling show looks like."

[Mister Master]

Backlund :prayer: e é só o que destaco da RAW de ontem. E o finisher do Sin Cara é estúpido.

[What]

Btw, a raw de ontem, de 2 horas, teve 7 combates.. :confuso:

:mrgreen:

[Coiso]

Porra, o PAC está enorme. :medinho:

 

E o Raw de ontem foi horrível. Assim não vão lá.

[Mister Master]

E saiu um DVD do Austin Aries. Uma coisa que a RoH sabe aproveitar muito bem, é mal um antigo lutador seu comece a ganahr destaque (como o Punk, Danielson, Hero e agora o Aries) eles lançam um DVD com antigos combates dele.

 

 

One of the most explosive, charismatic, intense stars to ever enter the ROH arena, Austin Aries immediately made an impression on the fans and left them clamoring for more. The man once referred to as “The Wrestling Machine” awed the ROH faithful with his combination of technical precision, high flying abilities, and a deadly combination of maneuvers that launched him into the Ring of Honor history books when he faced down Samoa Joe at “Final Battle 2004”.

 

 

This is a look at how Aries rose up the ranks in ROH, made history one cold December night in 2004, and went on to establish himself as one of the world’s preeminent grapplers through his matches against the likes of CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Homicide, and James Gibson amongst many others. Whether it be alongside his Generation Next cohorts, reigning as a World Tag Team Champion with Roderick Strong, or standing alone as the ROH World Champion, Austin Aries always brought the fight to his competition. From GenNext to World Champion to one of the few man called an “ROH Icon”, this is the Evolution of A-Double…

 

Disc 1

 

1. Austin Aries vs. Samoa Joe (ROH World Title Match)…Final Battle 2004 12/26/04

 

2. Clip of Homicide beating Aries in Trios Tournament 2005 Finals 3/5/05

 

3. Austin Aries vs. Homicide (ROH World Title Match)…Best Of American Super Juniors Tournament 4/2/05

 

4. Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley (ROH World Title Match)…Manhattan Mayhem 5/7/05

 

5. Highlights of Aries vs. Gibson time limit draw from Stalemate 4/16/05

 

6. Austin Aries vs. James Gibson (ROH World Title Match)…Final Showdown 5/13/05

 

7. Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (ROH World Title Match)…Nowhere To Run 5/14/05

 

8. Austin Aries vs. Spanky (ROH World Title Match)…New Frontiers 6/4/05

 

9. Austin Aries vs. AJ Styles…This Means War 10/29/05

 

10. Clips from Tag Title win…Final Battle 2005 12/17/05

 

11. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. Bryan Danielson & Jay Lethal (ROH World Tag Title Match)...Tag Wars 06

 

Disc 2

 

12. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles & Matt Sydal (ROH World Tag Title Match)...Fourth Anniversary 2/25/06

 

13. Austin Aries vs. Sydal…Arena Warfare 3/11/06

 

14. vs. Davey Richards…Glory By Honor V, Night 1 9/15/06

 

15. Clips from Aries & Strong vs. Daniels & Sydal…Fifth Year Festival: NYC 2/16/07

 

16. Austin Aries vs. Matt Sydal (Open The Brave Gate Championship)…Fifth Year Festival: Dayton 2/23/07

 

17. Austin Aries vs. Takeshi Morishima (ROH World Title Match)…The Battle Of St. Paul 4/27/07

 

18. Aries return/contract signing at Driven on 6/23/07

 

19. Austin Aries vs. Roderick Strong- Undeniable 10/6/07

 

20. Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (Match 1 in The Best of Three Series)…Honor Nation 10/5/07

 

21. Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (Match 2 in The Best of Three Series…Chaos At The Cow Palace 10/21/07

 

22. Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (Match 3 In The Best of Three Series)…Glory By Honor VI, Night 1 11/2/07

 

[Coiso]

Como é que a ROH está? Não vejo nada há meses, aborreceu-me por completo, e li ontem uma notícia sobre o estado geral da empresa e fiquei preocupado. :|

[Poeira]

A Raw de ontem foi das mais fracas que alguma vez vi, e já vejo o show há quase 5 anos. Então em termos de combates só se safou o do Cena/Kane vs Jericho/Show porque de resto meu deus ...

[Phil]

A Raw de ontem foi das mais fracas que alguma vez vi, e já vejo o show há quase 5 anos. Então em termos de combates só se safou o do Cena/Kane vs Jericho/Show porque de resto meu deus ...

 

True story,combates de squash,muito fraca,estava a ver aquilo a dormir em pé de tão boring que era...

[Dolph Ziggler]

Digam-me que eu não vi aquele Raw... :blink: ..... Foi a coisa mais mediocre e mais chata e mais tudo que eu alguma vez vi na minha vida..Aquilo parece mais uma novela que sei lá o que...A WWE podia pensar em começar a dar wrestling ás pessoas...Era uma excelente ideia.

 

Pior Raw dos ultimos anos!! Até já chegamos á altura em que o Christian(Intercontinental Champion) é squashado por um nabo de 40 anos sem futuro.