[Wrestling] Discussão Geral

[Ed]

Já há um brand split RAW/Smackdow "vs" NXT. Agora não há main-eventers para um brand split, RAW/Smackdown.

[Einstein]

O Draft era das minhas coisas favoritas de assistir, bem como a rivalidade RAW x SD! a culminar o SS. Sou totalmente a favor de voltar a existir um Split, mas a WWE não deverá ter interesse (€€) nisso.

 

A NXT tem tudo para ser a 3ª brand. A ECW dos dias de hoje, basicamente.

[Chazzy Chazz]

Já há um brand split RAW/Smackdow "vs" NXT. Agora não há main-eventers para um brand split, RAW/Smackdown.

Agora, não. Mas assim que a malta lesionada (e lembro-me à cabeça de Seth, Cena e Orton) voltar, conjugado com um bom booking de alguns lutadores, estão reunidas as condições para isso.

 

A NXT tem tudo para ser a 3ª brand. A ECW dos dias de hoje, basicamente.

Isso era um cenário interessante, por acaso. Mas talvez mais visto como um HHH x Vince do que propriamente outra coisa.

[Dominator]

Qual é a cena por tras de tantos avatares com o cagueiro do Rikishi?

[JC3]

Qual é a cena por tras de tantos avatares com o cagueiro do Rikishi?

 

http://www.cmportugal.com/index.php?showtopic=170421&st=0

[Ed]

Agora, não. Mas assim que a malta lesionada (e lembro-me à cabeça de Seth, Cena e Orton) voltar, conjugado com um bom booking de alguns lutadores, estão reunidas as condições para isso.

 

 

Isso era um cenário interessante, por acaso. Mas talvez mais visto como um HHH x Vince do que propriamente outra coisa.

 

Mesmo com Seth, Cena e Orton ficava muito curto. Mas a WWE está com um roster, ao nível de main-event, demasiado curto por culpa própria.

[Chazzy Chazz]

Subscrevo isso da "culpa própria".

[Maffu]

Mesmo com Seth, Cena e Orton ficava muito curto. Mas a WWE está com um roster, ao nível de main-event, demasiado curto por culpa própria.

 

Há tanto com gajo com potencial para ser pushado e que podia facilmente chegar ao Main event. COm um brand spilt só facilitava isso.

Editado 3 Fevereiro 2016 por Sierra K

[Phil]

teres dois títulos mundiais na mesma companhia desvaloriza o prestígio de um deles. é preferível teres o IC ao nível do IC da new japan. ou mesmo o tv title na roh

[JohnyM]

teres dois títulos mundiais na mesma companhia desvaloriza o prestígio de um deles. é preferível teres o IC ao nível do IC da new japan. ou mesmo o tv title na roh

 

Não acho nada. Na altura em que tiveste Cena e Batista campeões tinham os 2 o mesmo prestígio.

 

E eu curtia o split só pelo draft e pela melhor feud a que já assisti (Sd! vs Raw)

[Ed]

teres dois títulos mundiais na mesma companhia desvaloriza o prestígio de um deles. é preferível teres o IC ao nível do IC da new japan. ou mesmo o tv title na roh

 

Nem por isso. Uma coisa que a WWE fez bem quando teve o brand split foi isso, principalmente na altura do Eddie e do Benoit, o Edge com o IC, Cena com o US, foram coisas bem feitas. Isto é, tinhas os dois títulos principais o WWE e o WHC e os 2 secundários para os rising stars/upper midcard.

[Phil]

Não acho nada. Na altura em que tiveste Cena e Batista campeões tinham os 2 o mesmo prestígio.

 

E eu curtia o split só pelo draft e pela melhor feud a que já assisti (Sd! vs Raw)

desde 2008 para aí que o título que importava era o que tivesse na Raw, mas de bem longe . em duas WM seguidas (a 27 e a 28) o título foi defendido no opener :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: e no ano a seguir tivemos o colossal Del Rio contra o ainda mais colossal Jack Swagger no meio do show num combate de 10 minutos.

 

vocês estão a falar de 2004 e 2007. esses tempos já lá vão e a wwe caga na SD há muito e há cada vez menos main-eventers

Editado 3 Fevereiro 2016 por Seth Rollins

[JohnyM]

desde 2008 para aí que o título que importava era o que tivesse na Raw, mas de bem longe . em duas WM seguidas (a 27 e a 28) o título foi defendido no opener :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: e no ano a seguir tivemos o colossal Del Rio contra o ainda mais colossal Jack Swagger no meio do show num combate de 10 minutos.

 

vocês estão a falar de 2004 e 2007. esses tempos já lá vão e a wwe caga na SD há muito e há cada vez menos main-eventers

 

Se é para pedir, pede-se a sério! Se é para deixar a coisa andar e estar com m*rda, que se deixe tar assim. Agora o brand split dos tempos "a sério" era mais do que bem vindo. E agora consegue-se facilmente roster profundo o suficiente para isso

[Phil]

eu também se fosse uma coisa a sério era totalmente a favor. Mas para ser o que foi nos últimos anos do título de pesos pesados prefiro que deixem igual.

 

tinham de reduzir o raw para duas horas e tirar estrelas de lá para meter no smackdown e o canal(que apesar de achar que é o mesmo) não iria achar muita piada

[Chazzy Chazz]

Sim, eu quando me refiro a brand split é lá para o tempo de 2004. A partir daí foi a descer.

[Jamarcus]

Eu cá acho que há main eventers suficientes: Cena, Orton, Rollins, Reigns, Ambrose, AJ, Wyatt... Depois dar o push a Owens, Cesaro, até ao Ziggler se fosse preciso. Mais malta do NXT, tipo Joe e Balor, e os part-timers de vez em quando, acho que havia muita gente disponível. Posto isto, sou totalmente a favor do regresso da brand-split, acho que dava mais tempo a todos e ajudava imenso a subir a qualidade do SD.

[Almeno]

Por muito que gostasse da ideia de brand-split não acho que faça grande sentido hoje em dia.

[Ricardo Pinto]

[Phil]

cm punk :lol: overrated :lol:

[El Shafto]

 

[Hook: Dido]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 1 (as Phil II)]

Dear Phil I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'

I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom

I sent two tweets back in autumn, you must not've got em

There probably was a problem at the twitter office or something

Sometimes I scribble #BestInTheWorld too sloppy when I jot it

But anyways, fuck it, what's been up man, how's AJ?

My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm 'bout to be a father

If I have a daughter, guess what I'mma call her?

I'mma name her April

I read about your Uncle Chris too, I'm sorry

I had a friend kill himself over some bitch who didn't push him

I know you probably hear this every day, but I'm your biggest fan

I even got the underground shit that you did with Lunatic Wrestling Federation

I got a room full of your posters and your pictures, man

I like the shit you did with Raven too, that shit was phat

Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back

Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan, this is Phil II

 

[Hook]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 2 (as Phil II)]

Dear Phil, you still ain't called or wrote; I hope you have a chance

I ain't mad, I just think it's fucked up you don't answer fans

If you didn't want to talk to me outside the show

You didn't have to, but you could've signed an autograph for Matthew

That's my little brother man, he's only six years old

We waited in the blistering cold for you

For four hours and you just said no

That's pretty shitty man, you're like his fucking idol

He wants to be just like you, man, he likes you more than I do (lool)

I ain't that mad though, I just don't like being lied to

Remember when we met in Chicago?

You said if I'd write you, you would write back

See, I'm just like you in a way

I never knew such a great wrestler neither

I used to always cheat on my mom and trick her, Reigns is not the best

I can relate to what you're saying in your promos

So when I have a shitty day, I drift away and put 'em on

Cause I don't really got shit else

So that shit helps when I'm depressed

I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest

Sometimes I even watch two Raws in a row to see how much it bleeds

It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me

See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it

My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7

But she don't know you like I know you, Phil, no one does

She don't know what it was like for people like us growing up

You gotta call me, man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose

Sincerely yours, Phil II

P.S. We should be a tag team too

 

[Hook]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 3 (as Phil II)]

Dear Mr. I'm-Too-Good-to-Call-or-Write-My-Fans

This'll be the last tweet I ever send your ass

It's been six months and still no word, I don't deserve it?

I know you got my last two tweets

I wrote the hashtag on 'em perfect

So this is my fantasy booking I'm sending you, I hope you hear it

I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the freeway

Hey, Phil, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive

You know the song by CFO$ "Phenomenal"

About that guy who could've saved that other guy from Vince

But didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him

That's kinda how this is, you could've rescued me from Vince

Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy

And all I wanted was a lousy tout or a tweet

I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall

I loved you Phil, we could've been tag champs, think about it

You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it

And when you dream

I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it

I hope your conscience eats at you

And you can't breathe without me

See, Phil, shut up bitch, I'm tryna talk

Hey, Phil, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the trunk

But I didn't make her watch Raw, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you

Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer less and then she'll die too

Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now

Oh shit, I forgot, how am I supposed to send this shit out?

 

[Hook]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 4]

Dear, Phil II, I meant to tout you sooner but I just been busy

You said your girlfriend's pregnant now, how far along is she?

Look, I'm really flattered you would call your daughter that

And here's an autograph for your brother

I wrote it on a WWE cap

I'm sorry I didn't see you at the show, I must've missed you

Don't think I did that shit intentionally just to diss you

But what's this shit you said about you like to watch Raw too?

I say that shit just clowning, dawg, come on, how fucked up is you?

You got some issues Phil II, I think you need some counseling

To help your ass from bouncing off to Smackdown when you get down some

And what's this shit about us meant to be tag champs?

That type of shit'll make me not want us to meet each other

I really think you and your girlfriend need each other

Or maybe you just need to treat her better

I hope you get to read this tout, I just hope it reaches you in time

Before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doing just fine

If you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you, but Phil II

Why are you so mad?

Try to understand, that I do want you as a fan

I just don't want you to do some crazy shit

I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick

Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge

And had his girlfriend in the trunk

And she was watching Raw with his kid

And in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to

Come to think about it, his name was, it was you...

damn.

 

 

tl;dr http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stan

Editado 4 Fevereiro 2016 por Shaft Ketchum

[Novak]

cm punk :lol: overrated :lol:

Melhor coisinha que aconteceu na WWE nos últimos anos, mas cagou de alto, nem todos se podem gabar disso 8)

[Phil]

shaft :heart:

 

eu tava a gozar amigos :lol: eu sou meio fanático pelo homem

 

é provavelmente a minha música preferida btw

Editado 4 Fevereiro 2016 por Seth Rollins

[marte]

 

 

[Hook: Dido]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 1 (as Phil II)]

Dear Phil I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'

I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom

I sent two tweets back in autumn, you must not've got em

There probably was a problem at the twitter office or something

Sometimes I scribble #BestInTheWorld too sloppy when I jot it

But anyways, fuck it, what's been up man, how's AJ?

My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm 'bout to be a father

If I have a daughter, guess what I'mma call her?

I'mma name her April

I read about your Uncle Chris too, I'm sorry

I had a friend kill himself over some bitch who didn't push him

I know you probably hear this every day, but I'm your biggest fan

I even got the underground shit that you did with Lunatic Wrestling Federation

I got a room full of your posters and your pictures, man

I like the shit you did with Raven too, that shit was phat

Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back

Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan, this is Phil II

 

[Hook]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 2 (as Phil II)]

Dear Phil, you still ain't called or wrote; I hope you have a chance

I ain't mad, I just think it's fucked up you don't answer fans

If you didn't want to talk to me outside the show

You didn't have to, but you could've signed an autograph for Matthew

That's my little brother man, he's only six years old

We waited in the blistering cold for you

For four hours and you just said no

That's pretty shitty man, you're like his fucking idol

He wants to be just like you, man, he likes you more than I do (lool)

I ain't that mad though, I just don't like being lied to

Remember when we met in Chicago?

You said if I'd write you, you would write back

See, I'm just like you in a way

I never knew such a great wrestler neither

I used to always cheat on my mom and trick her, Reigns is not the best

I can relate to what you're saying in your promos

So when I have a shitty day, I drift away and put 'em on

Cause I don't really got shit else

So that shit helps when I'm depressed

I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest

Sometimes I even watch two Raws in a row to see how much it bleeds

It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me

See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it

My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7

But she don't know you like I know you, Phil, no one does

She don't know what it was like for people like us growing up

You gotta call me, man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose

Sincerely yours, Phil II

P.S. We should be a tag team too

 

[Hook]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 3 (as Phil II)]

Dear Mr. I'm-Too-Good-to-Call-or-Write-My-Fans

This'll be the last tweet I ever send your ass

It's been six months and still no word, I don't deserve it?

I know you got my last two tweets

I wrote the hashtag on 'em perfect

So this is my fantasy booking I'm sending you, I hope you hear it

I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the freeway

Hey, Phil, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive

You know the song by CFO$ "Phenomenal"

About that guy who could've saved that other guy from Vince

But didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him

That's kinda how this is, you could've rescued me from Vince

Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy

And all I wanted was a lousy tout or a tweet

I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall

I loved you Phil, we could've been tag champs, think about it

You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it

And when you dream

I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it

I hope your conscience eats at you

And you can't breathe without me

See, Phil, shut up bitch, I'm tryna talk

Hey, Phil, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the trunk

But I didn't make her watch Raw, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you

Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer less and then she'll die too

Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now

Oh shit, I forgot, how am I supposed to send this shit out?

 

[Hook]

Taima's gone cold, I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all

The morning rain clouds up my stream and I can't see at all

And even if I could it'll all be laggy, but your picture on my wall

It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad

 

[Verse 4]

Dear, Phil II, I meant to tout you sooner but I just been busy

You said your girlfriend's pregnant now, how far along is she?

Look, I'm really flattered you would call your daughter that

And here's an autograph for your brother

I wrote it on a WWE cap

I'm sorry I didn't see you at the show, I must've missed you

Don't think I did that shit intentionally just to diss you

But what's this shit you said about you like to watch Raw too?

I say that shit just clowning, dawg, come on, how fucked up is you?

You got some issues Phil II, I think you need some counseling

To help your ass from bouncing off to Smackdown when you get down some

And what's this shit about us meant to be tag champs?

That type of shit'll make me not want us to meet each other

I really think you and your girlfriend need each other

Or maybe you just need to treat her better

I hope you get to read this tout, I just hope it reaches you in time

Before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doing just fine

If you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you, but Phil II

Why are you so mad?

Try to understand, that I do want you as a fan

I just don't want you to do some crazy shit

I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick

Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge

And had his girlfriend in the trunk

And she was watching Raw with his kid

And in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to

Come to think about it, his name was, it was you...

damn.

 

 

tl;dr http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stan

 

f*da-se :lol: :prayer:

[Almeno]

cm punk overrated

Só verdade nesta afirmação 8)

[Chazzy Chazz]

:lol: