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[Perdigas]

OMG, ganh?mos. Wade :prayer: Quem ? que o ajudou a ganhar?

:mrgreen:

 

Para mim foi o Blount...o Ricky Davis foi uma mis?ria 2 pontos em 30 minutos que esteve em campo

[Gavazzo]

OMG, ganh?mos. Wade :prayer: Quem ? que o ajudou a ganhar?

O Blount, acima de tudo. Mas o Jason, ou Chocolate Branco, como dizes ( :mrgreen: ) fez um trabalho defensivo simplesmente soberbo. Fez um career-hign de 6 steals e alguns passes para alley-ups, l? ? frente.

 

Infelizmente, a pontaria esteve em baixo, para ele.

 

O Wade, no fim do 3? per?odo, em que est?vamos a perder por 9, colocou-nos, basicamente, a ganhar por 9 a meio do 4? per?odo. :prayer:

 

Ah, sim, e o Ricky Davis foi simplesmente miser?vel. Falhava tudo.

[andriy pereplyotkin]

NBA - 27 de Janeiro

 

Suns - Bulls

Celtics - Magic

Cavaliers - Lakers

Wizards - Bucks

Hawks - Trail Blazers

Nuggets - Mavericks

Nets - Timberwolves

Jazz - Rockets

Knicks - Warriors

Kings - Supersonics

[The Bad Blood]

Silence speaks volumes as Kidd seeks a trade

Sunday, January 27, 2008
BY DAVE D'ALESSANDRO
Star-Ledger Staff

MINNEAPOLIS - Jason Kidd doesn't want to work here anymore.

The foundation of the Nets' franchise throughout this decade won't come right out and say it, nor does he have to, because he has an agent who can say it for him.

And that agent, Jeff Schwartz, recently asked Nets president Rod Thorn to move his client to a contender before next month's trade deadline, according to several league officials who cannot be identified without betraying confidences.

Thorn would not comment when asked about the request, but it is becoming increasingly clear he may not be able to grant it even if he wanted to.

The primary reason: The Nets are extremely vulnerable now, and they have learned that they cannot get anything close to resembling a fair deal for a 34-year-old point guard making $20 million, even if he is still capable of performing on a Hall of Fame level.

"Right now things are going very poorly for us," Thorn said, without specifically addressing the Kidd conundrum. "Historically, those are the times when you don't get offered what you might consider fair deals. And sometimes you feel that maybe you should do something to do something, but those are the times you have to be very cognizant and careful about what the results of your actions might be."

Various general managers around the league said this past week that Thorn is handcuffed by roster and payroll circumstances.

He cannot trade Vince Carter, because the 31-year-old former All-Star has just signed a long-term deal valued at $62 million and is currently underperforming. Thorn also cannot afford to be without Richard Jefferson, who will be part of the nucleus going into the post-Kidd transition stage. And the team cannot get a fair return for its young front-court players, who are on their rookie contracts.

That leaves Kidd as the most viable trading chip, even though it would probably result in an irrevocable shift in philosophy, style and long-term planning.

One could easily argue, however, that any team with an eight-game losing streak -- one that is two losses away from falling into 13th place in the Eastern Conference as it lines up against the Minnesota Timberwolves tonight -- is due for some kind of demolition anyway.

Kidd seems to sense that this is inevitable, and he has dropped clues about his confidence in the team's future from time to time. From his "no-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel" speech in November, to his "this-is-who-we-are" decree 10 days ago, you didn't need a rhetorical scholar to articulate the subtext: This is as good as the Nets are going to be, he was saying, loudly and clearly.

In this case, however, he actually might have understated the message: The Nets look like a 18-25 team that hasn't bottomed out yet.

And the best point guard of his generation feels he is entitled to something better.

"That's the message we're getting," said one NBA head coach, who asked not to be identified so as not to compound the Nets' problems. "You just have to watch him, but we hear that he wants out, and we have all heard that he wants to play for a contender.

"But you know, I've seen that same body language get a triple-double."

That doesn't resolve Thorn's chief problem if he actually wants to pursue a trade. According to his peers, Thorn is likely to get nothing that approximates Kidd's value to the Nets -- only expiring contracts belonging to expendable veterans and lottery-protected draft picks.

The last time Kidd was being shopped around -- last February -- Thorn couldn't find a single deal that included a young talent that could be a part of the Nets' foundation, as the Lakers wisely refused to put Andrew Bynum on the table.

One year later, the Nets are in the same situation they face year after year: Their stars aren't as consistent as they are paid to be. And the most alarming sign has emerged during this road trip, where Kidd has had several performances that were well below his All-Star standard, getting outplayed by the likes of Sam Cassell, Steve Nash, Mike Bibby, and Baron Davis.

"He's tired of what the team has become, and it shows," said one friend of Kidd's, remaining anonymous so as not to be critical of the Nets' captain. "And I doubt even an extension would make him happy at this point."

The Nets' refusal to give Kidd an extension for the 2009-10 season led to his first publicly expressed doubts about the team's future in November. According to Kidd's friend, there have been no discussions of an extension since then.

When asked what management should do, Kidd responded with his usual, practiced casualness Friday night in Denver: "You got to play with the guys you have here. We got to find out a way to win with the group we have, and management will have to do what management has to do at the end of the day."


@ www.nj.com/nets

[Vaart10]

Falando por mim j? esperava esta poss?vel sa?da ? mais tempo. Vejamos o que o futuro lhe reserva.

[kareca]

Porque n?o usam o @ nos prognosticos? Assim n?o h? confus?es.

 

Tudo muito confiante com os nets s? porque jogam com a pior (?) equipa? McCants vai calar muitos 8-)

[Gavazzo]

Porque n?o usam o @ nos prognosticos? Assim n?o h? confus?es.

 

Tudo muito confiante com os nets s? porque jogam com a pior (?) equipa? McCants vai calar muitos 8-)

Eu concordo, foi o que disse h? pouco.

 

McCants lixou Miami mas os Nets hoje ganham. For sure. 8)

[kareca]

NBA - 27 de janeiro

 

 

Suns @ Bulls

Celtics @ Magic

Cavaliers @ Lakers

Wizards @ Bucks

Hawks @ Trail Blazers

Nuggets @ Mavericks 8-)

Nets @ Timberwolves

Jazz @ Rockets

Knicks @ Warriors

Kings @ Supersonics

[Stark]

Hornets 102 - 78 Spurs

 

:prayer:

[Kendrick Lmao]

Suns @ Bulls

Celtics @ Magic

Cavaliers @ Lakers

Wizards @ Bucks

Hawks @ Trail Blazers

Nuggets @ Mavericks

Nets @ Timberwolves

Jazz @ Rockets

Knicks @ Warriors

Kings @ Supersonics

[Carson Wentz]

laercio, n?o contaste as minhas apostas ontem. S? n?o acertei na vit?ria dos Heat. ;)

 

(Fora @ Casa)

Suns @ Bulls

Celtics @ Magic

Cavaliers @ Lakers

Wizards @ Bucks

Hawks @ Trail Blazers

Nuggets @ Mavericks

Nets @ Timberwolves

Jazz @ Rockets

Knicks @ Warriors

Kings @ Supersonics

[ProkhoLov]

laercio, n?o contaste as minhas apostas ontem. S? n?o acertei na vit?ria dos Heat. ;)

 

Sorry, nao vi o teu post.

 

Edit: Aqui esta ele:

Aposto nos Pacers, Phily, Memphis e Hornets.

 

[#24]

se o Kidd for embora a minha alegria de ver os Nets a jogar cai por terra...

nao deve haver troca alguma (possivel) que colmate a saida do Kidd..

ao estado que esta equipa chegou, mandar embora o melhor jogador... ? triste

[Gavazzo]

ao estado que esta equipa chegou, mandar embora o melhor jogador... ? triste

O Jefferson ainda n?o foi, nem deve estar para ir. 8)

[kareca]

Hoje n?o d? jogo nenhum na sporttv?

Ainda por cima com Nuggets @ Mavs na ESPN? :axe:

[Perdigas]

tenho jogo agora ?s 15:00 contra a equipa sat?lite do Porto, vou jogar contra a EB Porto B.

[#24]

tenho jogo agora ?s 15:00 contra a equipa sat?lite do Porto, vou jogar contra a EB Porto B.

boa sorte :compinchas:

[arv]

O Blount, acima de tudo. Mas o Jason, ou Chocolate Branco, como dizes ( :mrgreen: ) fez um trabalho defensivo simplesmente soberbo. Fez um career-hign de 6 steals e alguns passes para alley-ups, l? ? frente.

 

Infelizmente, a pontaria esteve em baixo, para ele.

 

O Wade, no fim do 3? per?odo, em que est?vamos a perder por 9, colocou-nos, basicamente, a ganhar por 9 a meio do 4? per?odo. :prayer:

 

Ah, sim, e o Ricky Davis foi simplesmente miser?vel. Falhava tudo.

 

Concordo, Blount, williams e Wade sem duvida :prayer:

 

o Udonis e o Davis se fossem meter o cu a render, faziam bem melhor...

[The Bad Blood]

O Jefferson ainda n?o foi, nem deve estar para ir. 8)

O Jefferson ? um excelente jogador; o Kidd, um g?nio, uma lenda, um HOFer.

[Gavazzo]

E falta uma men??o para um verdadeiro senhor. 22 anos apenas, Dorell Wright est? feito um enorme jogador. 14 pontos e 10 ressaltos, pontaria certeira, poder? vir a ser um dos grandes jogadores desta gera??o.

[Nuk]

Concordo, Blount, williams e Wade sem duvida :prayer:

 

o Udonis e o Davis se fossem meter o cu a render, faziam bem melhor...

Ainda ? pouco tempo eram dos melhores jogadores agora j? nao valem um corno, n?o vos percebo agora ? o Dorrel que est? a cair nas vossas gra?as daqui a duas semanas j? nao vale um (censurado) :mrgreen:

[Kaz]

Jogos Realizados Ontem:

 

(9-33) 98-96 (19-26)

Players of the Game

MIA - D. Wade (Pts:35, Reb:8, Ast:4)

IND - M. Dunleavy (Pts:25, Reb:6, Ast:3)

 

 

(17-27) 96-103 (17-28)

Players of the Game

CHA - J. Richardson (Pts:35, Reb:6, Ast:2)

PHI - A. Iguodala (Pts:33, Reb:6, Ast:5)

 

 

(13-31) 125-120 (13-27)

Players of the Game

MEM - R. Gay (Pts:34, Reb:12, Ast:2)

LAC - C. Maggette (Pts:35, Reb:9, Ast:2)

 

 

(28-14) 78-102 (31-12)

Players of the Game

SA - T. Duncan (Pts:17, Reb:8, Ast:1)

NO - D. West (Pts:32, Reb:7, Ast:1)

 

 

Jogos Marcados para Hoje:

 

(17-25) X (31-13)

 

(27-18) X (34-7)

 

(27-14) X (23-19)

 

(17-27) X (23-18)

 

(25-18) X (18-21)

 

(29-13) X (26-16)

 

(7-35) X (18-25)

 

(24-19) X (25-18)

 

(26-18) X (14-28)

 

(9-34) X (18-24)

 

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NBA TOP 10 - JOGOS DE ONTEM (January 26)

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CLASSIFICA??O

[Gavazzo]

Aquele afundan?o do Wade com uma m?o ? soberbo.

S? agora ? que me apercebi que os NOH ganharam em San Antonio. :o

[#24]

O Jefferson ? um excelente jogador; o Kidd, um g?nio, uma lenda, um HOFer.

 

"one of the greatest playmakers that ever playied the game"

"the best pointguard of his era"

 

isto nao sao frases minhas... e acho que dizem tudo

por falar em kidd... viram a melhor jogada de 2007? foi dele... ? simplesmente magica :prayer:

[Gavazzo]

N?o foi do Rasheed Wallace?