[Equipa] Brooklyn Nets

[Miguel Galego]

Laercio porque é que dizes que o iverson anda a estragar aquilo?

[Kendrick Lmao]

o iverson anda a estragar aquilo? LOOOOL

pelo amor da santa

 

se há jogador que é o cancro dos nuggs, esse jogador é o Melo.

e nao me admirava nada que o trocassem pelo RJ, eu trocava pelo menos

[ProkhoLov]

O Melo nao combina com o AI. Os dois querem chutar, os dois querem ter a bola e nenhum deles defende como deve ser. O AI ate sacrifica o seu jogo pra ajudar o Melo, mas depois é crucificado por nao ser o mesmo AI dos 76.

Os Nuggets tem talves um dos melhores conjuntos de jogadores da liga (AI, JR, Melo, Kleiza, Nene, Camby, K-Mart, Najera), mas nao conseguem formar uma equipa temivel.

 

 

O que voces preferem, trocar um 23 years old superstar ou um 33 years old ex-superstar? O contrato do AI so\ acada no final da proxima epoca, salvo o erro. E nao estou a ver nenhuma equipa interesada no contrato dele. Ou seja, ou trocam o Melo pra tentar arranjar uma equipa a curto prazo e alguns rookies/picks, ou esperam pelo termino do contrato do AI, K-Mart e Camby, e trazem alguem que ajudar Melo & JR (sera que esses dois querem andar mais 2 anos a levar na pá com aquela equipa?).

[kareca]

Carmelo cancro? :s

 

Não é um Iverson, mas para a idade dele é um dos melhores da NBA.

Têm/tinham um treinador de m*rda.

[Bynum Lover]

LOL laercio, o Iveron anda a "(censurado)r" aquilo tudo :lol: O Melo sim, o Kenyon também, agora o Iverson é o que leva aquilo para a frente.

 

Só querem chutar :mrgreen:

[ProkhoLov]

Ja expliquei porque, BL.

[Bynum Lover]

Ja expliquei porque, BL.

:fixe: São opiniões

[The Bad Blood]

Ora aí está uma troca com a cara dos Nets. Tudo o que precisamos é de outro jogador talentoso com problemas de vedetismo e relaxamento de esfíncter nos jogos importantes. Nets rumo à ruína.

[ProkhoLov]

E` uma versao 23 years old do VC :mrgreen:

 

Sem falar que a troca envolve umas quantas picks, Nenad, SWAT, Boone e Jeff.

 

 

Por outro lado, era uma forma de nos livrarmos do Carter, pois Melo & Carter = lulz. Nao na mesma troca, como e` obvio. Melo vem por um lado, Carter sai pelo outro. E ate podiamos ganhar com isso, pois vinham uns gajos de fim de contrato e no final do proximo ano, tinhamos Harris, Melo (e o Camby errrr...) e dinheiro pra formar o resto da equipa.

 

Ok, ando a sonhar muito.

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Ja vi uns comentarios em relacao ao Josh Smith. Combina bem com o VC e` um jogador transferivel. Jeff, SWAT e umas picks pra Atlanta, JS5 pra New Jersey.

 

[#24]

esse sim era bem-vindo... mas duvido dado que até Atlanta já é melhor equipa que nós na actualidade.

[ProkhoLov]

More Melo......

 

Nets/Nuggets trade: 'Melo for RJ?

 

 

The Nets' representative at Tuesday's draft lottery may be minority owner Jay-Z — a good choice since everything the hip-hop mogul touches seems to go platinum.

 

If he is in Secaucus and provides a little luck, instead of delivering his buddy LeBron James to the Nets in 2010, Jay-Z could improve their chances of acquiring Carmelo Anthony this off-season.

 

Multiple league sources said the Nets and Nuggets have discussed a blockbuster deal that would bring Anthony and Marcus Camby to New Jersey. In return, Denver would get a package that includes Richard Jefferson, Marcus Williams, Keith Van Horn's contract and the Nets' lottery pick. There likely is more involved to make the salaries match up, but the sources said the trade could happen, making Tuesday even more important.

 

The Nets, in the lottery for the first time since 2001, have only a 1.1 percent chance of getting the top pick and a less than 4 percent chance of jumping into the top three. They just hope they don't fall from their current spot at 10.

 

It's hard to say if Denver would be less interested in dealing if the Nets dropped, but the Nuggets might be more likely to part with their franchise player if they could get a top-three pick such as Memphis' Derrick Rose or Kansas State's Michael Beasley. They're still deciding, however, if they want to move Anthony.

 

Either way, the Nets are expected to be one of the most active teams leading up to the June 26 draft. They have two first-round picks – No. 21 came from Dallas in the Jason Kidd trade — and three picks in the first 40.

 

The Nets want to win now and are weighing whether to use their picks and wait for the players to develop or trade for proven players. They're leaning toward the former. A source with knowledge of the Nets' thinking said they're looking to make "some bold moves."

 

Team president Rod Thorn and general manager Kiki Vandeweghe, who will represent the Nets on Tuesday if Jay-Z doesn't, have been gauging interest in Jefferson and Williams as well as their picks since the regular season ended last month.

 

"You're always looking to do something to make some sense," Thorn said. "If something presented itself that we felt could really help us,. then we might look to move either or both of our picks. But right now it appears to me we'll stay with at least the 10th pick and probably the 21st also."

 

Thorn admitted, though, that teams with multiple picks usually are the most active. After dropping from six to seven in the 2001 lottery, the Nets traded the No. 7 pick to Houston for three first-rounders. They became Jefferson, Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong.

 

"I think you're probably a little more apt to do something if you have multiple picks because you have a little more leverage than if you didn't," Thorn said.

 

If the Nets do nothing, they think they can find a good player in the 10 range.

 

They're looking for size, athleticism, toughness and shooting. This draft seems deep at the power forward position and center spot around where the Nets are projected to pick.

 

Among the players who could be there that the Nets may have interest in are UCLA's Kevin Love, Kansas' Darrell Arthur, Florida's Marreese Speights, North Carolina State's J.J. Hickson, Louisiana State's Anthony Randolph and Nevada's JaVale McGee.

 

The Nets may have to wait for some of these players to develop, though. So if Denver is amenable to moving Anthony, the Nets would rather do that. That would be like winning the lottery.

 

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The Nets' representative at Tuesday's draft lottery may be minority owner Jay-Z — a good choice since everything the hip-hop mogul touches seems to go platinum.

 

 

Sources say the Nets and Nuggets have been talking trade, with Carmelo Anthony and Richard Jefferson as principals. If he is in Secaucus and provides a little luck, instead of delivering his buddy LeBron James to the Nets in 2010, Jay-Z could improve their chances of acquiring Carmelo Anthony this off-season.

 

Multiple league sources said the Nets and Nuggets have discussed a blockbuster deal that would bring Anthony and Marcus Camby to New Jersey. In return, Denver would get a package that includes Richard Jefferson, Marcus Williams, Keith Van Horn's contract and the Nets' lottery pick. There likely is more involved to make the salaries match up, but the sources said the trade could happen, making Tuesday even more important.

 

The Nets, in the lottery for the first time since 2001, have only a 1.1 percent chance of getting the top pick and a less than 4 percent chance of jumping into the top three. They just hope they don't fall from their current spot at 10.

 

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It's hard to say if Denver would be less interested in dealing if the Nets dropped, but the Nuggets might be more likely to part with their franchise player if they could get a top-three pick such as Memphis' Derrick Rose or Kansas State's Michael Beasley. They're still deciding, however, if they want to move Anthony.

 

Either way, the Nets are expected to be one of the most active teams leading up to the June 26 draft. They have two first-round picks – No. 21 came from Dallas in the Jason Kidd trade — and three picks in the first 40.

 

The Nets want to win now and are weighing whether to use their picks and wait for the players to develop or trade for proven players. They're leaning toward the former. A source with knowledge of the Nets' thinking said they're looking to make "some bold moves."

 

Team president Rod Thorn and general manager Kiki Vandeweghe, who will represent the Nets on Tuesday if Jay-Z doesn't, have been gauging interest in Jefferson and Williams as well as their picks since the regular season ended last month.

 

"You're always looking to do something to make some sense," Thorn said. "If something presented itself that we felt could really help us,. then we might look to move either or both of our picks. But right now it appears to me we'll stay with at least the 10th pick and probably the 21st also."

 

Thorn admitted, though, that teams with multiple picks usually are the most active. After dropping from six to seven in the 2001 lottery, the Nets traded the No. 7 pick to Houston for three first-rounders. They became Jefferson, Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong.

 

"I think you're probably a little more apt to do something if you have multiple picks because you have a little more leverage than if you didn't," Thorn said.

 

If the Nets do nothing, they think they can find a good player in the 10 range.

 

They're looking for size, athleticism, toughness and shooting. This draft seems deep at the power forward position and center spot around where the Nets are projected to pick.

 

Among the players who could be there that the Nets may have interest in are UCLA's Kevin Love, Kansas' Darrell Arthur, Florida's Marreese Speights, North Carolina State's J.J. Hickson, Louisiana State's Anthony Randolph and Nevada's JaVale McGee.

 

The Nets may have to wait for some of these players to develop, though. So if Denver is amenable to moving Anthony, the Nets would rather do that. That would be like winning the lottery.

 

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/nets/Net...old_Nugget.html

 

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More 'Melo Talk

The Lottery is tomorrow and Jay-Z will be sitting for the Nets. Kiki Vandeweghe will be there. Rod Thorn isn’t sure where he’ll be, but he will be watching from wherever he is.

 

Thorn said he always watched even when he wasn’t in the lottery. This is somewhat new territory for him. It’s only his second time in the lottery since becoming a Nets’ executive.

 

Thorn took the job after Lewis Katz pounded his fist a couple of times in 2000 when the Nets won the lottery and the right to draft Kenyon Martin.

 

Back in Secaucus the next year, the Nets actually moved down from sixth to seventh, but still were able to make a franchise-changing trade when they dealt No. 7 (Eddie Griffin) to the Rockets for the rights of Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong.

 

The Nets hope tomorrow is another franchise-changing or franchise-shaping event. If they stay where they are – at roughly 10 - they may be able to get a Kevin Love or Marreese Speights or Darrell Arthur.

 

Those names are speculative. They have interest, but the Nets haven’t had a single individual workout with those or any other players. No team has. They’re not allowed until June 4. Then again, in Nets’ recent history they haven’t always drafted the guys they worked out.

 

Thorn said as of now he expects to keep the Nets’ lottery pick and their second first-rounder – No. 21 from the Jason Kidd trade. If the Nets do, it won’t be from like of trying.

 

As I wrote on the print side today, the the talks between the Nets and Nuggets were more than exploratory. The sources I spoke to said a proposal was exchanged. I’m sure other writers are going to shoot it down and of course question why the Nuggets would give up Carmelo Anthony so soon?

 

I can’t answer the latter, but I’ve been told the Nets’ offer is being considered. I never said it would happen. But it’s not dead yet, I'm told. No deal is dead until the main player or players have been traded elsewhere.

 

My guess is other teams will try and get in the sweepstakes and could offer more than the Nets.

 

I don’t know if the Nuggets have determined that they want to move Anthony yet. But his recent legal problems, the fact that they haven’t won a playoff series in five tries with him and that he and Allen Iverson don’t mesh well are reasons they’re considering moving the No. 3 pick in 2003.

 

The scenario discussed would be Anthony and Marcus Camby for a package that includes Richard Jefferson, Marcus Williams, Keith Van Horn’s contract and at least the Nets’ lottery pick. More definitely is involved to make the trade work and could also include another Nets’ pick, which would make sense for one of the NBA’s top scorers.

 

This part is total speculation: but I would think if the Nets move up in Lottery it could improve their chances of enticing Denver. I don’t know what happens if they move down – probably doesn’t help – or stay the same.

 

The bottom line is this: the Nets are trying to make something happen. They want to make “some bold moves” I was told and to me that translates into probably giving up one if not both picks.

 

Ray Allen doesn’t get traded to Boston without Seattle getting the No. 5 pick back. The Celtics don’t get Kevin Garnett without including two draft picks. The Nets don’t move Kidd without getting two picks from Dallas or get Vince Carter without the picks they acquired from the Martin deal with Denver.

 

What the Nets are weighing now is whether they can live with taking someone at 10 and perhaps 21 and potentially waiting a year or so for him or them to develop when they want to be competitive next season.

 

The Nets have assets to get better in a short time and since teams are looking to cut payroll the draft picks and Van Horn’s expiring contract are valuable. So even if it’s not Anthony, they will try to make something big happen. They need to be aggressive, as I’ve stated numerous times.

 

Also, in response to some of your comments from the last blog, the $3.3 million trade exception is a good asset too. But, it cannot be combined with a player in a trade so it wouldn’t be in this Anthony scenario.

 

http://njmg.typepad.com/zzone/2008/05/more-melo-talk.html

 

 

[#24]

se a vinda do Lebron James for equacionavel... preferia que ficassem quietos agora, e fossem buscar o Lebron depois

(nao sou grande apreciador do Carmelo)

 

mas isto pode já ser muito sonho a falar :lol:

 

EDIT: laercio e TBB acham isto ponderavel?

 

ja li num forum dos nets que o Iguodala está insatisfeito em Philadelphia, e acaba contrato este ano, querendo ele um contrato de estrela quando os sixers nao pensam assim... talvez fosse uma oportunidade para nós entrarmos em acçao.

assinavamos com Iguodala... trocavamos o Carter por um PF (pensei no Brand), mas tudo isto tendo em conta que essa tal troca com os Nuggets pelo Carmelo sucedia e que teriamos o Carmelo e o Camby...

ficava so a faltar um ajuste de salario para ter o Iguodala... que nao pensei bem nisso.

 

e entao? que acham?

[Bynum Lover]

Mas quem é que trocam pelo Melo e Camby?

 

Se me é permitido, seria excelente, AI tem grande futuro, excelente jogar, melhor que o Carter, devido à sua irregularidade.

[Stvnt]

Pondo as coisas de uma forma clara e objectiva ..

 

Melo > RJ

 

Marcador de pontos impressionante desde que chegou à liga .. Poderoso debaixo do cesto .. Step up a meia distancia dos melhores da NBA .. e tem vindo a aprefeiçoar o tiro exterior

 

Basta ver que o career high do RJ este ano está muito longe dos numeros do Melo

 

É uma xlente trade .. so ficam a ganhar (ja para nao falar da juventude do Melo)

 

Tem probs de vedetismo? Correcto

 

Mas não deixa de ter medias de 27 ppj numa epoca

 

Concordo que se houver uma remota possibilidade de ir buscar o Wade ou Bron James para o ano .. era preferivel ficarem quetos agora

 

Mas entre ir buscar o Arenas ou o AI ou ate mesmo o Baron .. eu se fosse fã dos Nets preferia o Melo

Voces tao fraquinhos na posiçao Forward

[The Bad Blood]

É daquelas trocas que seríamos moralmente obrigados a fazer dada a qualidade actual e principalmente o potencial do Carmelo. Estamos a falar de um jogador que no seu auge valerá certamente mais de 30PPG e 8RPG.

Agora, não tenho dúvidas que nos Nets passaria metade do ano sem calçar graças ao senhor Frank, nem ponho as mãos no fogo em como a equipa melhoraria quando as duas principais figuras seriam estrelinhas mimadas...

[ProkhoLov]

Voces tao fraquinhos na posiçao Forward

Nao acho. Jeff terminou no top 10 scorers este ano. Melhor do que muitos Lewis, Danleyvis, e etc.

 

Tudo pode mudar com a noite de hoje. Mas uma coisa e` certa, nao vamos descansar enquanto algo grande nao acontecer.

[SAS_Robben]

Carter e Melo na mesma equipa.

 

Medo, muito medo........

[ProkhoLov]

Agora ja se fala em Diaw+Barbosa pelo Jeff. :lol:

 

[Kendrick Lmao]

fdx RJ nos suns? :S

[ProkhoLov]

Nash

Bell

Jeff

Amare

Shaq

 

Nao sei se ha dinheiro pra tal, mas.... :medinho:

 

Essa troca era um :adeus: pro VC.

[Bynum Lover]

Gosto muito do Leandrinho. Era um bom base para vocês. Era o começo dar revolução que tanto precisam. Mas tudo depende de hoje, se conseguirem uma boa pick..

[andriy pereplyotkin]

Agora ja se fala em Diaw+Barbosa pelo Jeff. :lol:

f*da-se, eu falei nisso ontem, só que estava a trocar o Raja que gosto menos, apesar de ser tão bom como o Leandro.

[ProkhoLov]

O Barbosa e` bom a defender?

[andriy pereplyotkin]

Não muito, mas é melhor a atacar que o Raja. E acredito que treinado para isso defenda bem, mas quem cá estava era o D'Antoni, a menos que já chegasses a saber defender não ias aprender :X

[Bynum Lover]

a menos que já chegasses a saber defender não ias aprender :X

True :lol: