[Wrestling] Discussão Geral

[45roma]

Só acabei agora de ver a Raw de segunda, metam o Ambrósio com o título. Que deus.

8)

[MicaelMargarido]

Digo-te que também não me importava, mas gosto mais do Roman. É o meu preferido.

 

Os Shield vão acabar por se separar não? É uma pena.

[45roma]

Como todas as stables, sim, vão se separar muito provavelmente. xD

 

:prayer:

[El Shafto]

Do Ambrose sou alto fanboy deste vídeo:

:heart:

[What]

"Two years ago, WrestleMania 28 was billed as “Once in a Lifetime.”

 

It wasn’t.

 

The big story at WrestleMania 30, as far as almost everyone knew as the show was going on, was the coronation on the big stage of Daniel Bryan as a somewhat unlikely WWE champion, in the sense when the plans for WrestleMania were put together late last year, nothing of the sort was supposed to happen. That did happen, but it wasn’t the big story.

 

A crowd of around 70,000 at the Mercedes Benz Superdome, and the millions watching around the world were watching the closing moments on what really was a poor wrestling match that was getting little reaction, even though it was supposed to be a highlight event on the show.

The crowd was so cold, maybe because the match wasn’t good, maybe because everyone knew the outcome, that when Brock Lesnar hit his first F-5, and The Undertaker kicked out, there was no reaction. Even when he did it a second time, there was very little reaction.

Then he did it a third time. Referee Chad Patton, who knew the same finish that everybody else thought they knew, hit the mat once, and then twice, and then didn’t know what to do.

 

He was told Undertaker was winning, but the rule every referee is told is that if the guys doesn’t kick out, you continue the count. Undertaker wasn’t kicking out. There was slight hesitation, which is why people were confused. Because he was confused. But he did his job. It was at that point that time stood still, while Lesnar whispered in Undertaker’s ear, “Thank you.” It was once in a lifetime. At least for this streak.

 

The most obvious pro wrestling comparison was January 18, 1971, at Madison Square Garden. Bruno Sammartino had been WWWF champion since May 17, 1963. There have been world title reigns as long, but it wasn’t the same thing. Lou Thesz had people believing he was the greatest wrestler in the world. Perhaps some thought the same of Verne Gagne. But neither was Superman. Dory Funk Jr. drew for years based on the idea that he was beatable. So did Nick Bockwinkel. Perhaps Rikidozan losing to The Destroyer in 1963 had that effect, because he was a national hero that had never lost in Japan, but fans knew he could lose. He himself said that he could never beat Karl Gotch.

 

Bruno was mortal, but he was also Superman, and he connected in a way that few wrestlers ever had. He had lost matches via DQ, count out, blood stoppages, but he had never been pinned cleanly. Ivan Koloff went to the top rope that night and dropped a knee on his chest. The referee counted three. The place went quiet. Then women started crying.

 

Nobody knew it was happening. In real life, Sammartino was beaten up and tired of the never ending schedule and just wanted to rest. He asked out. In doing so, he took a young French Canadian who idolized him, and made him one of the three biggest heels in pro wrestling for nearly another decade. I was live and saw Fedor’s winning streak end in San Jose, and Anderson Silva’s end in Las Vegas. Time absolutely stood still in the former. It wasn’t that many seconds that Fabricio Werdum had Fedor in the triangle. The clock claims the fight only went 69 seconds. I could swear he was in the triangle for minutes because time stood still. And then he tapped. The place went bananas. That was a 28 fight unbeaten streak lasting nine years, and every one of those wins were not scripted.

 

Anderson Silva went 16-0 against tougher competition and was the greatest of all-time. Unlike Lesnar, and unlike Werdum, and certainly unlike Koloff, we all recognized that Chris Weidman had a chance to win that night. But the way it happened threw everyone for a loop. Time didn’t stand still there at all. It was as in the time of a blink of the eye, a split second at most, to comprehend that the guy acting like he was wobbly to taunt the other guy and making fun that he couldn’t touch him, actually was knocked him out. The place went crazy.

 

He went seven years unbeaten in the UFC, and nobody scripted those outcomes either.

 

There are conflicting reports and messages on how many people knew what was going to happen when Undertaker got in the ring, possibly for the last time.

It was reported here that a few years back, when Undertaker and Lesnar first talked about doing the angle for this match at WrestleMania 27, that Undertaker had said he would want to put Lesnar over. That was likely to build for a rematch. It wasn’t set in stone. With knowledge of that, which we reported during the build-up, many figured it was Undertaker who made the call. That was not the case.

 

From the day the match was announced, until 3/31, at least, the finish everyone thought would happen was what was going to happen.

 

What happened after that was fuzzy. Only a few people knew before Sunday. If the ref himself wasn’t told before the match, that tells you it was probably Vince McMahon, who made the call, Undertaker, who had to agree, Lesnar who had to know in advance, and Paul Heyman. I would presume Stephanie McMahon and HHH knew, but it ended with that. None of the agents knew. The actual script for the show did not have a finish listed, but for this show, that wasn’t unusual, nor was it the only match like that, so there were no red flags.

 

Still, two major betting sites, had a late shift of money on Lesnar, so much that he went from a ridiculous 50-to-1 underdog, to an actual favorite.

As noted last week, McMahon had decreed that Undertaker would not get touched during the buildup. But the build to the match was weak and on the go-home show, Lesnar did leave Undertaker laying with an F-5.

 

With the benefit of hindsight, it wasn’t that McMahon was so protective of his star against a guy who was in some fans’ mind an outsider who became a star in WWE, but a superstar and super drawing card in UFC. Given McMahon’s history, that wouldn’t have been a stretch to assume that. It may have been simply McMahon knew Undertaker couldn’t take the punishment.

 

The Undertaker character could not be put down at WrestleMania. He was a cartoon superman, who somehow had made his scripted matches into legitimate reality for people around the world. They had been told that the streak was bigger than the Dolphins going 17-0, or DiMaggio hitting in 56 straight games. The streak actually started out inauspiciously. It wasn’t a long term plan. Many of the early matches were bad. Others were throwaways. Wins over Jake Roberts, King Kong Bundy and Jimmy Snuka on paper may look like nostalgia, but Snuka was a TV squash match and not pushed at all, the Roberts match was bad and Bundy had nothing left. The Giant Gonzalez match was worse. The Kane matches were hardly classics. But as match quality became more important in the post 2000 era, Undertaker rose to the occasion. Matches with Batista and Edge were strong WrestleMania headline matches. In the last five years, as his physical condition worsened and he was down to really doing only a few matches a year, and only one high profile one, the streak matches have been among the best matches of the year in pro wrestling. When put on the biggest stage, they become bigger and better.

 

Mark Calaway is a 49 year old man whose body turned on him more than a decade ago, but when he had his nights, like WrestleMania the previous several years, he simply denied the pain and became The Undertaker. I can recall having dinner with one of WWE’s biggest names, telling me how badly Calaway was hurting and that he probably only had a year or two left. That was in the early fall of 1997.

 

People were remarking when he came back this year how much he aged. I remember a story a few years back when the idea was brought up to him about maybe retiring at Cowboys Stadium, with the idea they’d break the Pontiac Silverdome record and he’d be the main attraction. He said he wasn’t going to last that long. The last three years, it was touch-and-go if he was going to come back, particularly last year. For some reason, this year it was always known he was coming back.

 

I had always figured it was a given that Undertaker would go into battle one last time, win, but this time nearly die in the process. The streak would be intact, and some kind of special effects would lead to a visual of him going to heaven, and we would never see the character again. Of course, being pro wrestling, two years later they’d try to figure out a way to bring him back. And it’s not like they didn’t already do that special effects deal with him before, and God knows how many times they killed Paul Bearer before he really died.

 

Lance Storm then wrote a piece. The short version of it was something that quite frankly, should have been said five years ago. It was a promo by an aging Undertaker confronting his own mortality, telling everyone that the streak would end, and he would retire when that happened. Such a thing would make the outcomes of his matches mean something. It would make WrestleMania mean something because instead of the common assumption that the guy would never lose, everyone knew he would at some point, just not when. The near falls would be bigger. People would probably have gasped and their hearts might have skipped a beat on that first and second F-5.

 

You could argue ending the streak was a bad idea. Or that even if it wasn’t, Brock Lesnar, a 36-year-old part-timer wasn’t the guy to do it with. And it wasn’t for Paul Heyman’s promo on Raw the next day, I’d agree with you.

 

Except, there was no choice. Whether Undertaker does another match or not, Vince McMahon was going on the assumption that this was his last hurrah, and he could either win, or lose. McMahon chose the idea that it was better to lose on your way out. That is the common wrestling mentality. Whether this should have been different, who knows? Lesnar happened to be the guy booked on the day McMahon came to this conclusion. Obviously, if Undertaker had told him that he was coming back next year, or argued, it may not have happened.

 

One person close to the situation said McMahon talked Undertaker into doing it. Another, who would also know, described it as McMahon making the call and Undertaker agreeing and that he wasn’t talked into doing something he didn’t want to do. It was not his original call, but he was in on it and never protested the call. And perhaps, like he thought in late 2010, if he was going to lose, maybe he thought this was the guy.

When it happened, fans were upset, but luckily they had the Daniel Bryan title win, which was really what everyone came to see since they all assumed Undertaker was winning and didn’t care that much about the match. If it wasn’t for that storyline, people would have probably been a lot more negative about the show. But they got a great show, and in the end, they saw two pieces of history in the same night.

 

At some point in the match, Mark Calaway suffered a severe concussion. The match wasn’t very heated, and it was worse because he went blank and was having to be led through. Nobody knows the exact spot, because when it was over, Calaway didn’t remember, or have any memory of most of the match. But he did know enough to not kick out at the key time.

 

At first, the announcers didn’t know what to do. The graphic wasn’t ready right away, nor was the music ready. The delay made fans think that maybe it was a mistake. The announcers were then given the cue by McMahon to talk about him as if this was the legendary gunfighter’s last fight, and talk of it like we’ve seen Undertaker for the final time.

 

The spot he got hurt in may have been when Lesnar used a high single leg takedown outside the ring and Undertaker fell backwards on the floor, hitting the back of his head. But that’s just speculation. The only thing for sure is it happened.

 

He also knew enough to stand there, and wait for the emotional outburst of the audience and the big standing ovation for the years of entertainment. Even if they didn’t know that this was his last performance, and again, it’s pro wrestling and it may not be, they knew that what he was best known for and what he will always be known for was over after 23 years.

 

The response was there. It wasn’t what I’d have imagined. There’s no way it could have been what Vince McMahon would have imagined.

 

Calaway legitimately was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance. Vince McMahon, even though there were two matches left in the show, including the main event, left with him to Ochshner Medical Center, where, after a CT scan, he was diagnosed with a severe concussion and kept overnight. The story that Paul Heyman told on Raw about coming close to a broken neck was just for drama, but the rest of what he said was legitimate. He was released Monday morning and was at Raw, but the decision was made not to use him. He was said to be limping bad and in rough shape.

 

There were many people in the company very unhappy about the call, but couldn’t say so publicly. But McMahon thought, and was probably correct, that he had no more streak matches left. And he may not have really had this one left in his body. At that point, it’s just a call. Do you end the storyline in a shocking way, or a predictable way? From a business standpoint, if he was never going to come back for a streak match, neither decision was better than the other.

 

The truth is, the story of every great streak includes the shock, awe, surprise and even sadness of when it ends. The most famous streaks in sports are most famous for the night they ended, or the match or game that ended it. And even in a scripted entertainment, this was no different."

[Bumblefoot]

Mais um Fandango vs Santino ...

[Mister Master]

Chris Sabin bazou da TNA. Motor City Machine Guns nas indies... oh boy!

[Reigns]

Santino x Fandango + as gajas da dança :prayer: aquela músSantino :lol: dança da gaja do Santino

 

ah, Roman deus Reigns :prayer:

[Cra]

Espero que a wwe não desperdice o talento do Dean, tem tudo para ser dos melhores heels da companhia.

[El Shafto]

Afinal a AJ não é a única!

 

[Mister Master]

As PWInsider.com broke earlier this week, there are plans for a big Ring of Honor announcement shortly. It appeared on Monday that the announcement would be issued this week, but sources indicate the company has decided to wait until next week.

 

It's possible that the promotion decided to hold the announcement due to all the other big news of the week. ROH sources indicate the announcement will "move the company forward" in a big way.

Os meus palpites:

• Parceria com a NJPW;
• Mick Foley;
• Jim Ross;
• Parceria com a nova fed do Jeff Jarrett

[SAS_Robben]

Jim Ross?

 

I'm impressed!

[El Shafto]

 

[Rōnin]

Ia lá :heart:

[SAS_Robben]

É tão branquinha meu Deus :(

[El Shafto]

On April 6th 2014 Daniel Bryan became a creationist

 

BECAUSE HE DEBUNKED EVOLUTION IN ONE NIGHT!

 

 

Num house show:

 

Jack Swagger won the IC Title against Big E with the help of Zeb Coulter. This led to Brad Maddox coming out and restarting the match only for Big E to retain the Title.

WWE have a history of trying things at house shows to see how they play out before they bring it to TV this could be a precurser to what will happen or possibly not.

Swagger may get the IC title to add a bit of spice to the feud with Cesaro and it's a perfect way to get a belt around Cesaros waist and continue to build huge momentum for him.

 

Editado 14 Abril 2014 por Shaft Ketchum

[JC3]

É tão branquinha meu Deus :(

 

Eu acho-a tão sexy :mrgreen: Claro que não ganha á AJ, nem á Kelly Kelly, nem á Maryse, mas é sexy.

[Wembanyama]

Tive fora e só agora vi a RAW depois da Wrestlemania! Heyman! Cesaro! Lesnar! :prayer:

[El Shafto]

Heyman! Cesaro! Lesnar! :prayer:

Meowth! That's right!

[Liedson]

Vale o que vale....

 

 

HipHopGamer, a well known YouTube personality recently released some information about WWE 2k15, which according to his sources are legitimate. There were a number of features highlighted in a recent video about the upcoming title. It is encouraged that this information be taken with a grain of salt as the legitimacy of these details are still unconfirmed.

 

First mentioned was the WWE network which is supposed to be a replica of NBA 2k’s NBA Today feature. Just as in NBA Today, the WWE network will update statistics, ratings and accessories for each and every individual character on the roster. It is also claimed that new animations and signature moves will be updated throughout the WWE season. Also mentioned was something about dynamic character changes, which he claims may go down to he physical features of each character. So for example, if John Cena shaves his head in real life, his head will be shaved in game.

 

Another area which was touched upon was the graphics. According to HipGamer, the graphics will be “CGI Like” and very high quality for the current generation versions of the title. It is certainly interesting to see what exactly these graphics are going to be like.

 

Also mentioned was the ability to interrupt character introductions and dynamic camera angles during introductions. Introductions will also have variations as wrestlers will not do the same exact thing every time they walk to the ring.

 

The most interesting of the details being given was that all buildings are connected in game. This is interesting as it brings about the idea of this game being an open world, or at least a an open building experience. Being that this is the case there will be no load screens between backstage fights and ring fights. The idea is, a player can come out of the ring, go backstage, into the locker rooms or dressing rooms and continue fighting there, similar to how things play out in real life.

 

And last but not least, a new control mechanic will be added for the ps4 controller as the touchpad will be used for finishers and reversals.

 

 

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Also....

 

A report released by TMZ.com reveales The Ultimate Warrior aged 54, died from a massive heart attack according to the autopsy conducted by a medical examiner.

 

The official cause of death is being reported as "Atherosclerotic/Arteriosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease" which is more commonly known as heart disease and thus his the examiner has ruled "natural" causes with no drugs nor alcohol directly involved.

 

This news makes his final speech made to a New Orleans crowd on last week's Monday Night Raw even more ominous...

 

Warrior said: "No WWE talent becomes a legend on their own. Every man's heart one day beats its final beat. His lungs breathe a final breath and if what that man did in his life makes the blood pulse through the body of others and makes them bleed deeper and something larger than life then his essence, his spirit, will be immortalised.

 

"In the back I see many potential legends. Some with warrior spirits and you will do the same for them. You will decide if they lived with the passion and the intensity. So much so that you will tell your stories and you will make them legends as well. You are the Ultimate Warrior fans and the spirit of Ultimate Warrior will run forever."

 

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"A tournament to determine the No. 1 contender to Big E's Intercontinental Championship will begin tonight on Raw. For more details, tune in to Raw Pre-Show at 7:30 p.m. ET on WWE Network. Also, don't miss Backstage Pass immediately following Raw."

Editado 14 Abril 2014 por Shag

[JC3]

Alguem aqui que vá ver o Raw hoje?

Estou desejoso de ver se vai haver feud entre a AJ e a Paige. Só espero que a WWE elabore esta feud e que não seja do tipo: "A Paige ganhou o titulo á AJ, no MITB há o rematch, a AJ perde e acabou a feud".

[MicaelMargarido]

Dá a que horas? Alguém disponibiliza stream?

[JC3]

Dá a que horas? Alguém disponibiliza stream?

 

Começa há 1:00

http://gofirstrow.eu/watch/254085/1/watch-wwe-monday-night-raw.html

[JC3]

Ultimate Warrior :(

[Thierry Henry]

Bonita homenagem.

 

Vai haver um Cesaro x Mark Henry.