[Anime/Manga] Naruto

[Victarion]

então porque é que cagou em vingar-se no Kakashi e focou-se em vingar-se do mundo?

[El Shafto]

Por causa das cenas das realidades que ele dá a entender. Ele deve tar à espera que, com as promessas políticas do Madara, ele fique numa "realidade" onde tem a Rin e, talvez ,até o Kakashi e o Minato. VOTE MADARA 2012

[Dominator]

Ainda nem sabemos porque/se o Kakashi a matou. O Madara ainda vai ter o seu discurso de brainwash e ainda vai haver mais coisas por revelar. A partir daí faz-se os juízos

[vakjew]

Ainda nem sabemos porque/se o Kakashi a matou. O Madara ainda vai ter o seu discurso de brainwash e ainda vai haver mais coisas por revelar. A partir daí faz-se os juízos

tipo é o pica tem que aproveitar todas as oportunidades para cascar

[Dominator]

lol, o Pica ate tem razão no que diz. So acho que há muito para se saber antes de ainda se perceber o que raio aconteceu ao Obito

[vakjew]

lol, o Pica ate tem razão no que diz. So acho que há muito para se saber antes de ainda se perceber o que raio aconteceu ao Obito

ninguém disse que ele não tinha razão mas aproveita logo para cascar sem saber realmente o que se passou

[Victarion]

pelo que até agora se percebeu.

 

e o vakje não sabe ler, yo

[vakjew]

e o vakje não sabe ler, yo

mas sei nadar já é qualquer coisa

[Victarion]

mas sei nadar já é qualquer coisa

isso explica como foste pó Canadá. mesmo jew, forreta para andar de barco.

[vakjew]

isso explica como foste pó Canadá. mesmo jew, forreta para andar de barco.

sabes

[El Shafto]

Cheira-me é que o Obito vai ter uma change of heart. Não consigo ver isso a não acontecer. Principalmente sendo ele uma espécie de "Naruto falhado". E se, por acaso, o Obito morrer, tem de ser o Kakashi a mata-lo. Com um Chidori. Kishi pls.

[Dominator]

Se o Kakashi matou mesmo a Rin e agora matar o Obito... Não sei não

[Scirea]

O ultimo episódio valeu pelo Minato. Nunca desilude quando aparece. :prayer:

[wolfking]

Yep, é um deus das lutas.

[aiello]

Para quem quiser, supostamente spoilers dos dois proximos capítulos:

 

 

Chapter 605

 

*Scene starts with a shocked Obito with tears in his eyes*

 

Obito whispering: Kakashi?! Why? Y-You were supposed to prote....

 

Spiral Zetsu interrupts: You have seen enough. Lets go back. This ninja world is full of flaws.

 

Obito crying: No, not now, I want to see, why has this happened!!

 

*A mist shinobi appears, injured looking at Kakashi*

 

Mist Shinobi: You bastard. How did you figure out she was one of our spies?

 

Kakashi: ...

 

 

Obito/Zetsu: ?!

 

Kakashi with tears: To be betrayed like this, by someone I considered a friend, Rin, did you ever have feelings for us? For Obito?

 

Rin (with blood in her mouth, choking): My parents were killed by the leaf as was my family. I grew hateful towards Konoha but after Obito's death, I learned that ... everyone is capable of both good and evil. When I was first assigned to my mission, I wanted revenge. Now, I have seen it all for myself. We are our own worst enemies. There will never be peace with this shinobi system. Loyalty to ones village is a poison.

 

Mist Shinobi/Kakashi/Obito/Zetsu: ?!?!

 

Rin: We'll do anything our village tells us.

 

Kakashi: That is our role as Shinobi! We are ...

 

Rin crying: We are children Kakashi, children. Not Shinobi. Children forced into a bitter world. Children who have had their parents killed and children now used by villages to kill. This system is evil. Peace can only exist within an illusion.

 

Obito: ?!?!

 

Rin crying more: I know how much you blame yourself for Obito. It wasn't your fault. He was forced into it. He died a fool believing he was protecting his village and friends, while it was the villages who created all the wars.

 

Obito/Kakashi: ....?!

 

Rin: He really was a fool. But .... I ... loved that fool.

 

Obito: ??!?!

 

Rin in her last moments: Obito, I can finally join you in peace.

 

Obito crying and whispering to himself: Rin please don't die, I'll save you! I'm coming.

 

*Obito is unable to move*

 

Obito: Zetsu, what are you doing, lets go.

 

Spiral: I'm afraid not. Look.

 

*both Obito and Zetsu look and see that Rin has become motionless*

 

Zetsu: She's dead. Lets go back to Madara.

 

*Obito and Zetsu enter the hideout. Obito is crying profusely*

 

Madara: They killed my brother and blamed it on me.

 

*Shocked Obito looks up to Madara*

 

Madara: I left the village shortly. Its a poison, this shinobi world. Peace can only be obtained through an illusion!

 

Obito: ?!?!?!

 

Madara: You should stay here boy. You have nothing left in Konoha, no parents, no friends.

 

Obito: I have Kakashi and Sens..

 

Madara: Don't be foolish child. You will come to lose them to, and what then? Stay here with me and we will both develop peace together.

 

Obito: ... I'm leaving as soon as I come strong enough on my own.

 

Madara thinks to himself: That's plenty of time to change you.

 

*Later, Obito is asleep when Spiral goes to Madara*

 

Spiral Zetsu: You orchestrated this didn't you?

 

Madara: We needed to give the boy a little perspective. He will come to accept soon enough.

 

Spiral Zetsu: What do you plan Madara, do you really think the moon's eye plan will give us peace?

 

Madara: Peace? What a rubbish word!

 

Zetsu: ?!?!

 

Madara: Its never been about peace.

 

*Madara smiles devilishly*

 

Madara: Its about immortality and power.

 

Chapter 606

 

*Flash back ended, scene focus on Kakashi*

 

Kakashi panting: Why ... after everything I've done and believed in, this is how it stacks up?

 

Obito: This Shinobi system is riddled with hate. You're beginning to understand Kakashi. Your father was a man who chose his friends over the order of his village elders. He was mocked for it and paid the ultimate price. Rin was a friend we cherished, a child soldier of war, being born into this hateful world. There was a time, you could say that I loved her.

 

Naruto: What is he talking about ???!

 

Obito: Sensei? Heh ? Another one groomed to be a solider. He excelled in his abilities but also paid the ultimate price didn't he.

 

Naruto: You were the one responsible for my fathers death! Stop your nonsense!

 

Obito: I did it for peace.

 

*Meanwhile, Madara is listening. However, he seems bored with their conversation*

 

Obito: And Kakashi, what about Sasuke?

 

Kakashi/Naruto: ?!?!

 

Obito: Another child soldier born in the wrong time. He was a disciple of yours. You should understand now.

 

Kakashi: ...

 

Obito: Your life is one of sadness and misery. Join me and we will give this world peace.

 

Kakashi: ....

 

Kakashi with his head down and his attitude deflated: My life is full of failures. Obito, what you said to me that day, about teamwork and friends, I held it very close to my heart. But now ... the very person I looked up to as an inspiration to the Shinobi world, stands before me now wanting peace in a different way. My father really was a hero. I lost him as a young boy, I was bitter. Sensei and Rin died young as well. Rin was never loyal to any village. She only completed her mission because she was promised safety at the end of it. Sensei gave his life to protect the people of Konoha. Sasuke is another one. As you said, a child soldier forced into a situation he didn't deserve. Maybe there was a meaning to Rin's words after all. Can peace really only be achieved in an illusion?

 

Naruto: KAKASHI YOU IDIOT!

 

*Naruto's thunderous voice is like a slap waking Kakashi up*

 

Naruto: ARE YOU HONESTLY LISTENING TO THIS RUBBISH!

 

Kurama thinking: hehehe, Naruto, you really are like the old man.

 

*Madara suddenly becomes interested*

 

Naruto: Just like you, I have also wanted to protect my friends. I learnt that from you!

 

Kakashi: ....

 

Naruto: I'm going to save Sasuke! Because that's what it means to being a friend!

 

Naruto: Master Jiriya believed that peace could be achieved at our own will! My father did so to and so do Nagato and Itachi!

 

Kakashi: ?! Itachi?

 

Naruto: He was the man who ended Edo Tensei!

 

Kakashi/Madara/Obito: ?!?!

 

Naruto: Kakashi, you are my teacher and if you ever utter that crap again, I'm going to PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE

 

Kakashi: ?!?

 

Naruto looks at Obito: I don't know who you are but ...

 

Naruto: Just look at the world. We are no longer villages. We are ONE! We are all comrades in this together!

 

Kakashi: ?!!!!!

 

Naruto: And Kakashi, taught me all of this. And I will be the 6th Hokage, believe it!!!!

 

*Naruto looks at Kakashi*

 

Naruto smiles: Kakashi, don't change. I'm glad you were my teacher!

 

*Kakashi smiles ....*

 

Naruto: Kakashi, I'm proud of you! And I know that my father would be as well!

 

*Kakashi is shocked, Gai is in tears and Killerbee screams with excitement*

 

Naruto: I will end all the pain and suffering. We will become friends and move on together! At our own will!

 

Naruto: Lets do this!!!!

 

Killerbee: Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

 

[El Shafto]

MUST NOT...

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:-k

Editado 7 Outubro 2012 por Lawliet D. River

[El Shafto]

 

Btw, é só a mim que me parece que o Kishimoto anda a ficar mais... brutal? Depois da Tsunade com a parte de cima em Lisboa e a parte de baixo no Algarve, esta primeira página... Não é propriamente uma m*rda visceral ou assim, mas lembra-me mais de quando li alguns dos primeiros capítulos de Naruto do que propriamente cenas mais recentes.

Capítulo muito bom, mas a deixar mais perguntas. Quer dizer, pelo menos eu fiquei um bocado confuso com aquele final. É como se o Obito tivesse completamente possuído ou uma m*rda assim.

 

[Elvis]

Muito fixe, o capítulo.

[Ricardo Silva]

O Kishi foi bem agressivo neste capitulo, não contava com algo tão grotesco. Infelizmente continua a evoluir pouco a história.

Gostei muito do despertar do mangekyou daqueles dois ao mesmo tempo

[Unclouded]

f*da-se, o Kishi surpreendeu-me pela brutalidade do capítulo :prayer:

Epá. resta agora esperar, porque realmente a história fluí pouco, mas o Obito em rampage mode usou o Mokuton, e com aquele poderio por causa da fusão com o Zetsu não me admira que tenha sido mesmo ele contra o Minato.

[El Shafto]

Eu fico com toda a ideia de que não era o Obito que tava a lutar, por assim dizer, mas sim o Mr Spiral ou crl. Até porque era um bocado parvo, do nada o Obito ficava assim doentemente forte? Acredito que, se calhar, os poderes estão lá, mas seja o Spiral que esteja a controlar as cenas.

[Scirea]

E atenção, ele quando entra pra batalha só tem o 2º nível do Sharingan. Ele desbloqueia o 3º e o Mangekyo de uma só vez.

[Visitante]

Muito fixe. Para mim o grande momento do capítulo é quando o Zetsu diz

 

 

"Obito... I can see now why Madara chose you."

 

Nem tenho dito nada no tópico porque estou à espera que esta justificação do Kishimoto para o Tobi ser o Obito chegue ao fim e para ver se há alguma incongruência. Não fico propriamente contente com o rumo, mas desde que tenha o mínimo de lógica, sbem

 

Agora quero saber quem é mesmo o Obito, o porquê de ser especial

 

[Steins]

emo Uchiha = power up

 

Genial Kishimoto, genial :handclap:

[El Shafto]

tou curioso para ver isto é falha de desenho ou se é planeado. tantas perguntas, tão poucas respostas.. daqui a mais 5 anos sabe-se tudo. :mrgreen:

Editado 11 Outubro 2012 por Lawliet D. River