Ataques terroristas em Paris

[Rōnin]

É ser covarde matar inocentes do outro lado só para safar o coiro de pessoal que é pago para evitar mortes de INOCENTES. Eles treinam para isso, não apenas para matar.

 

Duvido muito que ataques aéreos por avião ou por drone tenham isso em atenção. É muito mais eficiente atacar o alvo desta forma do que fazendo-o com infantaria e artilharia pesada.

[BartoloSerenity]

Salvatore Sirigu reveals he lost two friends in the Paris terrorist attacks. “It’s hard to accept losing people you see almost every day.”

 

The Italy and Paris Saint-Germain goalkeeper spoke to Rai Sport after a 2-2 friendly draw with Romania.

 

“There are many things to improve, perhaps we need to be a bit more efficient in the various duels around the pitch. We are working on it and aim to improve on these in training.”

 

This evening two friendly games, Belgium-Spain and Germany-Netherlands, were cancelled due to security fears.

 

Sirigu was affected more than most players by what happened on Friday in Paris, as he lost two friends.

 

“They were two splendid kids I knew well, they were of Italian origin and worked in an Italian restaurant. Marco Verratti, I and others in the team were regulars at that place.

 

“It was hard to accept losing two people who you see almost every day.

 

“I think everyone acted in a dignified manner. We have to continue doing what we do every day, keeping our minds on those who are most affected by this.

 

“It’s difficult to accept, but life goes on and there are others we need to console.

[Guest fiasco]

Alguns são só simpatizantes, não quer dizer que se tornem radicais a este ponto.

 

 

Sabes que foi propositado, certo?

 

 

Achas que vamos (sociedade modernizada) lá com raides aéreos e drones?

 

 

Vamos lá com educação e com uma sociedade mais justa e equalitaria.

Ajudava e muito redistribuir a riqueza daqueles países.

Ajudava e muito não forçar derrubes de regimes só porque querem nacionalizar os poços de petróleo (que de facto pertencem a todos nós, e a seguir ao povo do país).

Ajudava não andar á paulada a ninhos de vespas tipo puto de 5 anos.

Irão e Siria nos anos 70 eram bastante "ocidentais", até lá "enfiarmos" as patas.

 

Claro que agora, depois da m*rda bater na ventoinha, é f*da limpar toda a sujeira.

Pessoas de m*rda, fazem religiões de m*rda. E não o contrario.

Pessoas boas, fazem religiões boas.

 

Mas sim, diria que ajudava e muito se parássemos de lá meter as manápulas. Mataram Gaddafi e Hussein ("terroristas e regimes déspotas") e criaram um monstro imensamente pior. Sem face. E disposto a tudo. (o mesmo com Pinochet, Noriega e afins...)

 

Mas hey, como já vi por aqui escrito. "Tem sempre de meter a America ao barulho..." #sorrynotsorry

[Guest Rumpas]

Sabes que foi propositado, certo?

Não sei, até porque vi isso aí escrito assim pelo menos duas vezes. Mas não vale a pena andar com off-topic lol

[kareca]

Duvido muito que ataques aéreos por avião ou por drone tenham isso em atenção. É muito mais eficiente atacar o alvo desta forma do que fazendo-o com infantaria e artilharia pesada.

 

É claro que não têm. Tal como não tens noção sequer se mataste algum dos famosos "baralhos de cartas".

Na Líbia foi igual, pessoal no local que mandava coordenadas gps pelo twitter para bombardear locais onde, supostamente, existiam alvos a abater.

[Ricardo Pinto]

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me

 

Putin: "To forgive terrorists is up to god, but to send them to him is up to me": :mrgreen:

[Marlo Stanfield]

Antes reclamavas que não se dava atenção à morte de inocentes no outro lado do Mundo, que não distingues a vida do ser humano pela sua origem e agora já colocas a vida de inocentes em 2º plano se for para teu bem. Muito bom :lol:

 

Não deixo de dizer que as vidas têm igual importância. Mas estando um país a planear 1 ataque de guerra é normal que em 1º coloque a protecção dos seus soldados e logo de imediato a protecção de inocentes. Mas em Guerra já se sabe que haverá sempre mortes inocentes... diz-me 1 guerra em que tal não tenha acontecido...

[Ghelthon]

Duvido muito que ataques aéreos por avião ou por drone tenham isso em atenção. É muito mais eficiente atacar o alvo desta forma do que fazendo-o com infantaria e artilharia pesada.

Se os alvos forem bem escolhidos, sim. A questão é que é mais provável que a Rússia ataque os rebeldes (e civis) do que propriamente alvos do ISIS.

 

Mesmo atacando os alvos certos, não chega para acabar de vez com o ISIS. Bombardeiam um campo de treino e morrem 30 jihadistas? Tudo bem, eles mudam de sítio e arranjam mais 20 ou 30 recrutas. Vai ser sempre assim, a não ser que sejam eliminados no terreno.

 

Vamos lá com educação e com uma sociedade mais justa e equalitaria.

Ajudava e muito redistribuir a riqueza daqueles países.

Ajudava e muito não forçar derrubes de regimes só porque querem nacionalizar os poços de petróleo (que de facto pertencem a todos nós, e a seguir ao povo do país).

Ajudava não andar á paulada a ninhos de vespas tipo puto de 5 anos.

Irão e Siria nos anos 70 eram bastante "ocidentais", até lá "enfiarmos" as patas.

 

Claro que agora, depois da m*rda bater na ventoinha, é f*da limpar toda a sujeira.

Pessoas de m*rda, fazem religiões de m*rda. E não o contrario.

Pessoas boas, fazem religiões boas.

 

Mas sim, diria que ajudava e muito se parássemos de lá meter as manápulas. Mataram Gaddafi e Hussein ("terroristas e regimes déspotas") e criaram um monstro imensamente pior. Sem face. E disposto a tudo. (o mesmo com Pinochet, Noriega e afins...)

 

Mas hey, como já vi por aqui escrito. "Tem sempre de meter a America ao barulho..." #sorrynotsorry

Eu concordo contigo, por princípio, mas achas que, a esta altura do campeonato, vamos resolver o problema do ISIS com diplomacia?

 

Não sei, até porque vi isso aí escrito assim pelo menos duas vezes. Mas não vale a pena andar com off-topic lol

Gato Fedorento, jovem. :mrgreen: "Gajo de Alfama", YouTube it.

 

Não deixo de dizer que as vidas têm igual importância. Mas estando um país a planear 1 ataque de guerra é normal que em 1º coloque a protecção dos seus soldados e logo de imediato a protecção de inocentes. Mas em Guerra já se sabe que haverá sempre mortes inocentes... diz-me 1 guerra em que tal não tenha acontecido...

Claro, acabará por acontecer. Mas tu disseste (ou deste a entender, pelo menos) que a morte de civis era inevitável, e que a sua segurança não devia ser priorizada.

 

Claro que morrem sempre civis inocentes, mas há formas de minimizar essa situação.

[Jone Sampaoli]

Gato Fedorento, jovem. :mrgreen: "Gajo de Alfama", YouTube it.

 

não fazes ideia do quanto em me lembro desse sketch agora :lol: é que tudo é aplicável, só falta a do cheiro a caril

[leugim]

Mesmo atacando os alvos certos, não chega para acabar de vez com o ISIS. Bombardeiam um campo de treino e morrem 30 jihadistas? Tudo bem, eles mudam de sítio e arranjam mais 20 ou 30 recrutas. Vai ser sempre assim, a não ser que sejam eliminados no terreno.

E não achas que, mesmo que sejam eliminados no terreno, surgirão muitos mais com ódio ao Ocidente e a manter a doutrina seguida pelo EI? Já para não falar das células existentes dentro da UE, que continuarão a surgir, a não ser que a ideia também seja bombardear território europeu, nomeadamente localidades com tendências extremistas. É um ciclo muito complicado.

[Adriano17]

é uma questão muito complicado porque, estão lá alguns mas há muitos outros mascarados cá na Europa

[Ghelthon]

E não achas que, mesmo que sejam eliminados no terreno, surgirão muitos mais com ódio ao Ocidente e a manter a doutrina seguida pelo EI? Já para não falar das células existentes dentro da UE, que continuarão a surgir, a não ser que a ideia também seja bombardear território europeu, nomeadamente localidades com tendências extremistas. É um ciclo muito complicado.

Aí já será uma questão de criar condições para que o extremismo diminua. Para isso não pode acontecer o que aconteceu no Iraque/Afeganistão, em que o Ocidente invade, limpa quem tem de limpar e depois os deixa à sua sorte. Isso foi um erro, espero que não se repita.

[famaboys]

FB Eagles Of Death Metal:

 

 

"While the band is now home safe, we are horrified and still trying to come to terms with what happened in France. Our thoughts and hearts are first and foremost with our brother Nick Alexander, our record company comrades Thomas Ayad, Marie Mosser, and Manu Perez, and all the friends and fans whose lives were taken in Paris, as well as their friends, families, and loved ones.

 

Although bonded in grief with the victims, the fans, the families, the citizens of Paris, and all those affected by terrorism, we are proud to stand together, with our new family, now united by a common goal of love and compassion.

 

We would like to thank the French police, the FBI, the U.S. and French State Departments, and especially all those at ground zero with us who helped each other as best they could during this unimaginable ordeal, proving once again that love overshadows evil.

 

All EODM shows are on hold until further notice.

 

Vive la musique, vive la liberté, vive la France, and vive EODM."

[PabloEscobar]

Um pouco de história acerca do Islão (vídeo em espanhol)

[Caviar]

Um pouco de história acerca do Islão (vídeo em espanhol)

 

[Vaart10]

Suspected architect of Paris attacks is dead, according to two senior intelligence officials

 

[bREAKING: Suspected architect Abdelhamid Abaaoud of the Paris attacks is dead, according to two senior intelligence officials]

 

PARIS — French police commandos descended upon a Paris apartment on Wednesday in a pre-dawn raid aimed at snaring the alleged ringleader of last week’s deadly terrorist attacks, triggering a firefight that left two suspects dead and underscored France’s vulnerability despite a widening crackdown.

 

A woman triggered a suicide blast when police stormed the apartment in Saint-Denis, a diverse area just north of Paris, and another suspect died, both part of a cell that authorities said may have been plotting another attack around Paris just five days after the coordinated attacks that left at least 129 people dead and over 300 wounded.

 

[LIVE updates from Paris and elsewhere]

 

It was not immediately clear whether the massive raid snared the most-wanted figures linked to the Paris bloodshed, a Belgian militant who fought with the Islamic State in Syria and boasted he could elude Western intelligence. Seven suspects were arrested in the operation, which lasted seven hours, including two suspects arrested who were found “hiding in rubble” created by explosions during the raid.

 

Five days after the worst violence on French soil since World War II, European nations remained on edge, enhancing vigilance against possible attacks by Islamist militants who have promised to bring the brutal tactics employed in Iraq and Syria to the West.

 

President Francois Hollande, seeking to reassure French citizens unnerved by the bloodshed on the streets of Paris, said the attacks would not alter the French way of life.

 

“We are at war against terrorism, terrorism which declared war on us,” Holland said at a meeting of French maoyors. “It is the [islamic State] jihadist organization. It has an army. It has financial resources. It has oil. It has a territory.

 

“It has allies in Europe, including in our country,” he continued, “with young, radicalized Islamist people. It committed atrocities there and wants to kill here. It has killed here.”

 

On Thursday he renewed his case for an extension to a state of emergency decreed after the attacks and also for changes to the constitution that he said would make France safer.

 

When Wednesday’s raid began, heavily armed police clad in military gear - some with their faces covered by balaclavas - moved quickly through the dark streets, while helicopters scanned the streets from the skies. For hours, traffic and public transportation were halted, and schools were shuttered.

 

Uthayaseelan Sanmugan, a 38-year-old cook who lives near the targeted apartment, said he woke up at 4:30 a.m. to the sound of gunfire, went to his window and saw the lights of weapon lasers outside.

 

“When I got to the street, I saw a lot of blood on the sidewalk. The blood of the terrorists.”

 

Residents were instructed to stay inside their homes.

 

“I heard gunshots, and, sometime around 7 a.m., a huge blast, an explosion,” said Kelly Ovo, a 45-year-old day laborer who lives close to the apartment under siege.

 

French police reported that Diesel, a 7-year-old police dog, was “killed by the terrorists” in the raid.

 

After Wednesday’s raid, forensic experts combed through the aftermath, including blown-out windows and floors collapsed by explosions, presumably seeking DNA and other evidence.

 

Paris prosecutor François Molins told reporters that the operation was launched after authorities had received information - potentially tips or intelligence information - that Abdelhamid Abaaoud, who officials believe was a key figure in planning the attacks, was possible in the area. But he did not immediately confirm whether Abaaoud was killed or apprehended in the attack.

 

Molins is due to address the press again at 7 p.m. local time (1 p.m. Eastern time).

 

Abaaoud, an ardent Islamic State supporter linked to several other terrorist attempts, was believed to be in Syria earlier this year. But some officials speculate he could have returned to Europe, perhaps passing undetected among the flood of asylum seekers pouring into Greek islands from Turkey.

 

The siege appeared to have been aided by another potential breakthrough in the probe: the discovery of a mobile phone in a garbage can near the Bataclan Concert Hall, the site of one of Friday’s assaults.

 

The phone’s data contained a map of the music venue, French media reported, along with a chilling text message sent shortly after the first gunmen entered: “Let’s go, we’re starting.”

 

The information on the mobile phone opened fresh leads, including to an apartment southeast of Paris in Alfortville, according to Mediapart, a French news outlet.

 

According to two police officials and an investigator close to the investigation, the raid may also have disrupted plans to stage an attack just west of Paris in the La Defense, an important financial district northwest of Paris. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief media.

 

The hunt for suspects in Friday’s attacks, which took place at a concert hall, several bars and restaurants, and a soccer match, French officials cast a wide net for potential suspects. Across France, 118 additional raids were conducted overnight on Tuesday, with at least 25 arrests. That brought to 414 the total number of raids launched throughout France since Friday’s attack, the Interior Ministry said.

 

If Abaaoud is in France, it would amount to a startling turn of events and would suggest that the high-profile figure of the Islamic State chased by European intelligence had managed to slip into France from the battlefields of Syria.

 

The key figure has eluded attempts to apprehend him, including in January when authorities staged an operation to arrest him in Athens. He has appeared in Islamic State propaganda videos and recruited his 13-year-old brother. A Belgian of Moroccan descent, he was raised in the Molenbeek neighborhood of Brussels, a largely Muslim area that has become one of the world’s main breeding grounds of violent Islamist extremists.

 

After Friday’s assaults, which laid bare the shortcomings of European intelligence agencies’ ability to prevent militant attacks, officials across the continent have remained on high alert.

 

In Copenhagen, a terminal at the city’s international airport was briefly evacuated after “an overheard conversation about a bomb,” police said in a Twitter post. The terminal was later reopened.

 

Countries including Sweden and Italy raised terror alerts. Extra security was posted in St. Peter’s Square, where Pope Francis addressed pilgrims.

 

French authorities, meanwhile, issued a pan-European bulletin asking people to watch for a Citroen Xsara car that could be carrying Salah Abdeslam, a French militant also accused of having a direct role in the attacks, the Spanish news site El Español reported Wednesday.

 

On Tuesday, authorities in Hanover, Germany, abruptly called off a friendly soccer match between Germany and the Netherlands that Chancellor Angela Merkel had planned to attend. One target of Friday’s attacks was a friendly soccer match between France and Germany at a crowded stadium north of Paris - not far from the Saint-Denis raids. No explosives were found at the German site.

 

In Brussels, another soccer match between Belgium and Spain was also canceled Tuesday.

 

But France’s secretary of sport, Thierry Braillard, said soccer matches around the country will go ahead as planned. “Life must go on,” he told the sports newspaper L’Equipe. German officials said soccer matches would be played as scheduled as well.

 

In a measure of French concerns, the country on Tuesday invoked for the first time a European Union mutual aid pact that calls for members of the bloc to assist other member states if they are attacked.

 

France continued air strikes Tuesday night against Islamic State targets in Syria, a significant escalation to its military participation in the U.S.-led campaign against the Islamic State. Also on Wednesday, France’s only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, embarked from Toulon port en route to the eastern Mediterranean, where its fighter jets will take part in operations against the militant group.

 

A woman triggered a suicide blast Wednesday as more than 100 police and soldiers stormed a building north of Paris, acting on tips that the suspected ringleader of last week’s bloodshed could be hiding in the tense French capital.

 

It was not immediately clear whether the massive raid snared any of the most-wanted figures linked to the Paris bloodshed — including a Belgian militant who had boasted he could slip easily between Europe and the Islamic State strongholds in Syria.

 

Forsenic experts combed through the aftermath — blown-out windows, floors collapsed by explosions — presumably seeking DNA and other evidence.

 

But the seven-hour siege also left no doubt that other potential threats remained.

 

As security forces closed in, the woman set off the blast — possibly an explosive-rigged vest or belt — after opening fire. Soon after, a police helicopter spotted a man trying to escape as he fired at police. Sharpshooters killed him, authorities said.

 

In addition to the two dead, police arrested at least seven people before the showdown was over in the historic heart of the northern Paris suburb of Saint-Denis, a teeming quarter with a large immigrant population.

 

Paris prosecutor François Molins told reporters that the operation was launched after authorities had received information that the suspected overseer of the Paris carnage, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, was perhaps in the area.

 

It also potentially disrupted plans to stage an attack just west of Paris in La Defense business district, about 10 miles from Saint-Denis, two police officials and an investigator close to the investigation said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief news media.

 

There was no immediate comment from French authorities.

 

Abaaoud, raised in a hardscrabble district of Brussels, was believed to be in Syria earlier this year. But some officials speculate he could have returned to Europe, perhaps passing undetected among the flood of asylum seekers pouring into Greek islands from Turkey.

 

Abaaoud is seen as the “guru” of Friday’s deadly attacks at a stadium, concert hall and bars and restaurants in Paris, which killed at least 129 people and wounded more than 350 others.

 

Molins did not confirm that Abaaoud was present at the raid site, and French officials gave no immediate details on the dead or captured. Two of the suspects arrested were found “hiding in rubble” from explosions, authorities said.

 

The siege unfolded as police scored another potential breakthrough in the probe: the discovery of a cellphone in a garbage can near the Bataclan Concert Hall, the site of one of Friday’s assaults.

 

The phone’s data contained a map of the music venue, French media reported, along with a chilling text message sent shortly after the first gunmen entered: “Let’s go, we’re starting.”

 

The information on the mobile phone opened fresh leads, including to an apartment southeast of Paris in Alfortville, according to Mediapart, a French news outlet.

 

Across France, 118 raids were conducted, with at least 25 arrests. That brought to 414 the total number of raids launched throughout France since Friday’s attack, the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

 

In his latest address to the country, French President François Hollande again cast the fight against Islamist militants in terms of a new kind of warfare that requires the West and others to unite. Hours earlier, France launched another round of airstrikes against Islamic State targets in Syria.

 

“We are at war against terrorism, terrorism which declared war on us,” Holland said. “It is the [islamic State] jihadist organization. It has an army. It has financial resources. It has oil. It has a territory.

 

“It has allies in Europe, including in our country,” he continued, “with young, radicalized Islamist people. It commits atrocities there and wants to kill here. It has killed here.”

 

In Saint-Denis, Uthayaseelan Sanmugan, a 38-year-old cook who lives near the targeted apartment, said he woke up at 4:30 a.m. to the sound of gunfire, went to his window and saw the lights of weapon lasers outside.

 

“When I got to the street, I saw a lot of blood on the sidewalk. The blood of the terrorists.”

 

Heavily armed police clad in military gear — some with their faces covered by balaclavas — moved quickly as the operation unfolded. Roads were sealed. Public transportation was cut. Helicopters scanned the streets from the skies.

 

“I heard gunshots, and, sometime around 7 a.m., a huge blast, an explosion,” said Kelly Ovo, a 45-year-old day laborer who lives close to the apartment under siege.

 

“My wife and I left the apartment to take refuge in the street because we did not feel safe anymore.”

 

“Stay inside your home. #explosion #assault,” tweeted local resident Becca Assouline.

 

French police reported that Diesel, a 7-year-old police dog, was “killed by the terrorists” in the raid.

 

If Abaaoud is in France, it would amount to a startling turn of events and would suggest that the high-profile figure of the Islamic State chased by European intelligence had managed to slip into France from the battlefields of Syria.

 

The key figure has eluded attempts to apprehend him, including in January when authorities staged an operation to arrest him in Athens. He has appeared in Islamic State propaganda videos and recruited his 13-year-old brother. A Belgian of Moroccan descent, he was raised in the Molenbeek neighborhood of Brussels, a largely Muslim area that has become one of the world’s main breeding grounds of violent Islamist extremists.

 

Across Europe, security forces were on high alert.

 

In Copenhagen, a terminal at the city’s international airport was briefly evacuated after “an overheard conversation about a bomb,” police said in a Twitter post. The terminal was later reopened.

 

Countries including Sweden and Italy raised terror alerts. Extra security was posted in St. Peter’s Square, where Pope Francis addressed pilgrims

 

French authorities, meanwhile, issued a pan-European bulletin asking people to watch for a Citroen Xsara car that could be carrying Salah Abdeslam, a French militant also accused of having a direct role in the attacks, the Spanish news site El Español reported Wednesday.

 

On Tuesday, authorities in Hanover, Germany, abruptly called off a friendly soccer match between Germany and the Netherlands that Chancellor Angela Merkel had planned to attend. One target of Friday’s attacks was a friendly soccer match between France and Germany at a crowded stadium north of Paris — not far from the Saint-Denis raids. No explosives were found at the German site.

 

In Brussels, another soccer match between Belgium and Spain was also canceled Tuesday.

 

But France’s secretary of sport, Thierry Braillard, said soccer matches around the country will go ahead as planned. “Life must go on,” he told the sports newspaper L’Equipe. German officials said soccer matches would be played as scheduled as well.

 

[The long war against Islamist extremism has become more complicated than ever ]

 

In a measure of French concerns, the country on Tuesday invoked for the first time a European Union ­mutual aid pact that calls for members of the bloc to assist other member states if they are attacked.

 

Also Tuesday, Russia conducted a “significant” number of strikes on Raqqa, possibly using sea-launched cruise missiles and long-range bombers, a U.S. defense official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the Russian operation. Those strikes follow the Russian government’s assessment that explosives brought down an airliner full of Russian tourists over Egypt last month. The Islamic State claimed responsibility for that attack.

 

@Washington Post

[Simeone]

[Pedro-SCP]

A polícia francesa acaba de confirmar que abateu nesta quarta-feira o alegado cérebro dos atentados de #‎Paris, o belga Abdelhamid Abaaoud.

[ZeeSpecialThree]

A polícia francesa acaba de confirmar que abateu nesta quarta-feira o alegado cérebro dos atentados de #‎Paris, o belga Abdelhamid Abaaoud.

 

Não foi abatido, nem preso. Estava agora a ouvir o "Prosecutor" (não me consigo lembrar do termo em Português) francês, na CNN

Editado 18 Novembro 2015 por ZeeSpecialThree

[Vaart10]

Não há confirmação oficial relativamente à situação do Abdelhamid Abaaoud, o Washington Post é que avança com essa possibilidade com base em dois testemunhos de especialistas.

[Ghelthon]

Alegado mentor dos ataques de Paris terá morrido em operação policial

[Marlo Stanfield]

Para os que usam o argumento das crianças e as associa sempre aos inocentes, não se esqueçam que uma criança com uma arma na mão não deixa de ser um terrorista.

 

 

É uma lavagem cerebral de dimensões enormes. Miúdos de 5 anos já querem ser bombistas suicidas. Há aí um que já sabe que na Europa é que estão os infiéis todos. Estão contra tudo que não siga as suas normas, não aceitam nenhuma liberdade sem ser a deles e ainda dizem que defendem os muçulmanos quando só os envergonham.

 

Já agora, vejam o documentário todo. Creio ser o único que existe realmente dentro do EI.

[kareca]

O post acima fala exatamente desse "boato"

[ZeeSpecialThree]

Ontem estava a falar com o meu pai sobre uma coisa e acho que a comunidade internacional devia pensar, devemos deixar de chamar Estado Islâmico a estes gajos...eles auto proclamam-se Estado Islâmico, mas não são Estado nenhum, são pura e simplesmente um grupo terrorista.

Editado 18 Novembro 2015 por ZeeSpecialThree

[Vimaranes1922]

Ontem estava a falar com o meu pai sobre uma coisa e acho que a comunidade internacional devia pensar, devemos deixar de chamar Estado Islâmico a estes gajos...eles auto proclamam-se Estado Islâmico, mas não são Estado nenhum, são pura e simplesmente um grupo terrorista.

 

Chamá-los senhor Vitor só para facilitar as coisas.