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Arsenal star Aaron Ramsey almost joined Manchester United in 2008 after they agreed fee for midfielder

 

Aaron Ramsey arrives at Old Trafford on Sunday as Arsenal's key threat as the London club look to maintain their lead at the top of the Premier League. But the Welshman could now by plying his trade in a United shirt...

 

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There is something of an irony in Manchester United identifying Cesc Fabregas as the solution to their midfield problems considering that they allowed the man who has now replaced the Spaniard at Arsenal to slip through their fingers five years ago.

 

United’s summer pursuit of Fabregas ultimately proved futile, with two bids being rejected by Barcelona for the 26-year-old, yet they were much closer to luring a 17-year-old Aaron Ramsey to Old Trafford from Cardiff City in the weeks following their 2008 Champions League triumph.

 

Even now, a quick search through the archive on United’s official website unearths an article from June 6 that year, under the headline “Ramsey fee agreed”, which details the club’s “delight” at negotiating a deal for the player with a successful transfer dependent only on “personal terms and the passing of a medical”.

 

Peter Ridsdale, the Cardiff chairman at the time, also accepted bids of £5  million from Arsenal and David Moyes’s Everton, but he admitted: “We would prefer it if Aaron signed for Manchester United to be honest, the simple reason being that, from our perspective, we want him to come back on loan to Cardiff next season.”

 

Everton, according to Moyes, were also very close to securing Ramsey, with the former Goodison Park manager admitting, “I had him in my house, but Arsenal beat me to it.”

 

 

 

Ramsey rejected Everton and the lure of Old Trafford, however, after suggesting to Sir Alex Ferguson that Arsenal’s track record with young players was more impressive than United’s – an assertion which Ferguson dismissed in his recent autobiography – and instead opted to sign for Arsène Wenger after meeting the Frenchman in Switzerland with his parents.

 

“I felt more wanted here [at Arsenal],” Ramsey has since admitted. “They did more things to try to get me.

 

“They had a plan set out for me and knew exactly how they wanted to develop me.”

 

Ramsey’s 11 goals from midfield for Arsenal this season have embellished his stunning start to the campaign and, with Wenger’s team due at Old Trafford on Sunday, also highlights the lack of similar qualities in Moyes’s squad.

 

How United could do with a player of Ramsey’s ilk. Moyes, from his first day in charge at United, was struck by the paucity of midfield options in the squad bequeathed to him by Ferguson, to the extent that he identified the need for two new midfielders this summer.

 

Fabregas proved elusive, a fee could not be agreed for Athletic Bilbao’s Ander Herrera and Roma rejected a move for Daniele De Rossi before Marouane Fellaini arrived on transfer deadline day from Everton.

 

Fellaini has so far done little to solve United’s problems in midfield, which would be brutally exposed were Michael Carrick to be sidelined for any length of time.

 

Ryan Giggs, 40 in three weeks’ time, will clearly not go on for much longer, while Tom Cleverley is reaching a crossroads at the age of 24 – two years older than Ramsey.

 

Anderson, meanwhile, has spent six years doing his best to make a fool of Martin Ferguson, Sir Alex’s brother and United’s previous European scout, who suggested the Brazilian was “better than Wayne Rooney” when recommending the then-Porto midfielder in 2007.

 

If only Ferguson had been able to close the deal for Ramsey five years ago – and prevent Paul Pogba’s 2012 departure to Juventus – Moyes would perhaps now be surveying a different landscape in midfield.

 

With a combative, goalscoring midfielder, aged just 22, alongside Carrick, the black hole in that key area may not have developed at Old Trafford.

 

Ramsey’s presence in the heart of Arsenal’s midfield could hurt United ton Sunay, yet the pain is already being felt as a result of their failure to sign him when they had the chance.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10435829/Arsenal-star-Aaron-Ramsey-almost-joined-Manchester-United-in-2008-after-they-agreed-fee-for-midfielder.html

 

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O Pato? Ainda se lesiona na viagem :lol:

Acho que ele não tem tido muitas lesões desde que voltou para o Brasil.

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Se é o Pato ou outro, isso não sei. Só quero é que arranjem alguém competente. O Giroud vai jogar a maioria das partidas do campeonato e da Champions mas não seria lá muito prudente confiar no monte do Bendtner. É que já não o posso ver à frente, f*da-se.

 

Continuo a achar que o Wenger irá dar minutos ao Podolski, se tal vier a ser necessário.

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Tem-se falado num empréstimo do Llorente mas a verdade é que ele tem sido opção e até tem marcado uns golitos ultimamente... Adorava que voltássemos à carga pelo Suárez no verão. A equipa, com ele nos quadros, passava para outro nível.

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Nao acho o Pato o avançado que o Arsenal precisa, a nao ser que o Wenger tenha alguma nuance tactica propositada para ele.

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Suarez daqui não sai. :finga:

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Meti para a próxima jornada o Suárez na Fantasy, espero que não seja a cena do costume e ele deixe de marcar :mrgreen:

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se ele não me der pontos, já sei de quem é a culpa :mrgreen:

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From Port Vale to Portugal: Matt Jones could be the answer to Roy Hodgson's goalkeeping conundrum

 

Goalkeeper rejected by Port Vale and West Brom could be the man to solve England's problems

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From Port Vale to Portugal: Matt Jones could be the answer to Roy Hodgson's goalkeeping concundrum

 

English goalkeeper available: Matt Jones (right), in action for Belenenses against Porto, is a potential addition to England's keepers.

 

In Lisbon on Sunday temperatures crept into the 20s, and the sun glinted off a calm, still Tagus. Days like these make Matt Jones appreciate expatriate life, above all when the job is going well. His club had given the players a rest from practice, family time for those not called up by their national squads.

 

Jones would be entitled to wonder how far away he might be from an international summons.

 

He is an English goalkeeper with a first XI spot in one of the top five domestic leagues in Europe. That alone makes him a rarity.

 

In the Premier League, only two keepers eligible for England started matches this weekend; in the last round of Champions League games, Celtic's Fraser Forster was the sole, active English custodian.

 

Train the radar wider in pursuit of back-up to Joe Hart, and it bleeps only at Championship level. It probably ought be picking up some sort of signal from the Portuguese Primeira Liga.

 

Jones, 27, plays for Belenenses, the Lisbon club who live somewhat in the shadow of Sporting and Benfica, but are prospering after promotion back to the top division that has been their customary home.

 

Their tall, blond keeper is banking much credit for an unbeaten run, now five matches, including draws at Benfica, and, most recently, at home to top-of-the-table Porto, a contest featuring a razor-sharp, close-range scoop over the bar from Jones.

 

His distribution is also praised, an important part of Belenenses's counter-attacking arsenal. Adept footwork would be among the qualities Jones believes his experience in Iberia has honed.

 

"Over here it is crucial," he says, "and something I've worked at. We have a lot of Brazilian keepers in Portugal and the things they do with the ball are phenomenal. I've got to a reasonable level with my kicking, though the strange thing is, that was something I struggled with when I was in England."

 

Even stranger, or at least unusual, is the route Jones followed from his English apprenticeship to where he finds himself now. "I took the long way round, so to speak," he said with a smile, as he outlined to Telegraph Sport his picaresque journey from Port Vale to Portugal.

 

Jones comes from Stoke. He was a Vale fan as a boy and then a crestfallen Vale discard at 14, told, after spell as a junior there, he would not be retained.

 

"They thought I wasn't going to be big enough, physically," he explains. "In a way I was a late developer." He is 6ft 3in.

 

West Bromwich Albion showed faith, but at 18, the crossroads time, he suffered the cut familiar to many young English keepers of his generation.

 

Tomas Kuszczak, the Pole, was among those in a long WBA queue ahead of him.

 

At that point, Jones felt ready to shelve the football dream. But an American university offered him a full sports scholarship provided he passed their academic entry exams.

 

He did, and spent a rewarding three years on Connecticut pitches – "the facilities were excellent" – and in lecture halls, and established himself as a good enough keeper that the professional avenue reopened, with interest from Major League Soccer and, via a college contact, from Portugal.

 

After graduation, he trialled at Santa Clara, of the second division, who were coached by the rising Vitor Pereira. They said 'sim'.

 

"It was an opportunity to carry on playing, a contract, so it was a no-brainer, with no negotiations on my part. I just wanted to get pen on paper."

 

The wages? Not exactly a Prem-sized pay packet. He earned €1,500 (£1,250) a month.

 

As Jones recalls, "it was enough to get by".

 

Santa Clara are in the Azores, the Atlantic archipelago. His life had changed.

 

"In America I was half an hour from New York. The Azores is beautiful, but there's very little to do. That allowed me to just concentrate on football, to mature as a player."

 

He learned the language, moved on to Uniao de Madeira, another tier-two club, on another island.

 

After a season there, Belenenses identified Jones as the keeper to get them promoted and, with that achieved at a canter, to protect their goal in the Primeira, a division ranked fifth in the current Uefa co-efficient, just under Italy's Serie A, a notch above France's Ligue 1.

 

What the Portuguese top flight does not have is the same global television exposure as those leagues. Jones knows he has limited "visibility" internationally.

 

On the local radar, though, his name registers louder and louder.

 

He has been monitored by Porto as a possible successor to their long-serving Brazilian keeper, Helton, initially on the recommendation of his old coach at Santa Clara, Pereira, who left the Azores to join Andre Villas-Boas at Porto, and would succeed the now-Spurs manager at the Portuguese champions.

 

Jones prefers not to speculate on a next step upwards, but nor will he put a ceiling on where his unorthodox journey might peak.

 

"You just have to keep putting in the performances," he says.

 

"I look at someone like Rickie Lambert. It's a bit of a fairy story for him to have come up all the divisions and be doing what he's doing now. That gives a lot of hope to players."

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Que notícia fantástica! Não estava nada à espera, pensei que nem soubessem quem ele é!

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Saudades do Matt. :cry: :heart:

 

Só mesmo o CABR*O do Moura para o sentar.

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because the world doesn't want to see the truth. the windows in your car look like some overcode to the magic under the sea and the tree is painting some pages in the name of arkandia. live free or take a drink. you choose, not the magicians

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Saudades do Matt. :cry: :heart:

 

Só mesmo o CABR*O do Moura para o sentar.

É fantástico ele estar sequer no radar da seleção. Isso e o nome dele já vir veiculado nos media britânicos, excelente mesmo!

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