As 23 mulheres (pelo menos) que foram assediadas por Harvey Weinstein

[Mayday]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html

 

Têm alguma bruxa para queimar? Aproveitem agora.

[Sumudica by Night]

É por estas m*rda que não tenho ídolos.

[Wincing Hálldor]

É perfeitamente possível apreciar o trabalho de alguém sem apreciar algumas coisas que eles tenham feito na vida.

 

Eu não vou deixar de gostar de Crystal Castles, não vou deixar de achar piada aos stand-ups do Louis CK nem acho que o Pianista é uma bosta de filme.

 

Nesta situação toda o que me f*de mais não é o facto de ser artistas que eu gosto estarem a ser apanhados nisto, mas sim o facto de que o raciocínio vigente continua a ser que não aconteceram abusos nenhuns e que estas pessoas que estão a acusá-las só o estão a fazer por atenção, na tentativa clássica de descredibilizar a vítima.

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É perfeitamente possível apreciar o trabalho de alguém sem apreciar algumas coisas que eles tenham feito na vida.

 

Eu não vou deixar de gostar de Crystal Castles, não vou deixar de achar piada aos stand-ups do Louis CK nem acho que o Pianista é uma bosta de filme.

 

Nesta situação toda o que me f*de mais não é o facto de ser artistas que eu gosto estarem a ser apanhados nisto, mas sim o facto de que o raciocínio vigente continua a ser que não aconteceram abusos nenhuns e que estas pessoas que estão a acusá-las só o estão a fazer por atenção, na tentativa clássica de descredibilizar a vítima.

Depende do cariz do conteúdo. Há certos contos do H. P. Lovecraft que para mim perdem qualidade e torna-se complicado de os apreciar, pois a xenofobia e racismo dele são transparentes. Estou muito bem a ler e, do nada, grupos de estrangeiros são descritos, casualmente, como violentos, sujos, em essência barbáricos e desumanos. Ainda recentemente li um dos seus contos e deparei-me com a seguinte descrição:

"The negro had been knocked out, and a moment’s examination shewed us that he would permanently remain so. He was a loathsome, gorilla-like thing, with abnormally long arms which I could not help calling fore legs, and a face that conjured up thoughts of unspeakable Congo secrets and tom-tom poundings under an eerie moon. The body must have looked even worse in life—but the world holds many ugly things."

Da mesma forma, algumas piadas e até este novo filme do Louis C.K. ganham toda uma nova dimensão impossível de separar da pessoa.

[Almeno]

Da mesma forma, algumas piadas e até este novo filme do Louis C.K. ganham toda uma nova dimensão impossível de separar da pessoa.

 

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Na maior parte do tempo eu também não tenho problemas em separar, mas quando me deparo com os exemplos que dei do H. P. Lovecraft, ou com isto:

(...)In another bit he laments being a prisoner of his perversions. “Just the constant perverted sexual thoughts,” he says, then mimes masturbating. “It makes me into a moron.”(...)

 

(...)In his forthcoming film, about a television writer whose teenage daughter is wooed by a Woody Allen type, one character aggressively mimics masturbating in front of others.(...)

Julgo que até o Jerry Seinfeld admitiria que se torna complicado... Pois é o pior da pessoa que está representado, deixa de ser comédia ou fantasia, em vez disso somos confrontados com a realidade perversa e doente dos criadores daquele material e lá se vai a imersão.

[Almeno]

Só meti o vídeo porque me lembrei de o ouvir dizer isso.

 

E porque tenho House of Cards para acabar de ver :mrgreen:

[Che]

Ainda vai sair cá para fora que é pedo. Aquele monólogo no SNL foi um desabafo.

[frnk th tnk]

Sinto que ainda estamos muito no inicio da coisa, acho que só ao final de um ano depois do caso do Weinstein é que vamos começar a compreender um pouco as consequências disto.

[Ghelthon]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html

 

Têm alguma bruxa para queimar? Aproveitem agora.

Como se o que está em causa fosse uma caça às bruxas...

[Sandes.]

relativo a esta conversa:

 

 

É um skit da série dele, para os despercebidos.

Editado 10 Novembro 2017 por Sandes.

[Mayday]

Como se o que está em causa fosse uma caça às bruxas...

Não, é que a bruxa agora vai queimar mais depressa.

 

O CK já admitiu que é tudo verdade.

Editado 10 Novembro 2017 por Mayday

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Louis C.K. Responds to Accusations: ‘These Stories Are True’

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Toca na questão do Louis C. K. um bocado, antes de ser "oficial", tal como a cultura que permite e até suporta este tipo de abusos.

[UnReal]

É por estas m*rda que não tenho ídolos.

 

então e o poster do Contador no quarto?

[Petar Musa]

Sinto que ainda estamos muito no inicio da coisa, acho que só ao final de um ano depois do caso do Weinstein é que vamos começar a compreender um pouco as consequências disto.

 

Que metade das coisas que se dizem, se calhar, é só para voltar a trazer alguém à ribalta?

[frnk th tnk]

Que metade das coisas que se dizem, se calhar, é só para voltar a trazer alguém à ribalta?

Ahh não ahah, nem pensei nesse prisma. É mesmo no perceber as consequências que isto vai ter na industria em si. Já tivémos casos parecidos anteriormente, como o Mel Gibson, mas eram casos singulares. O que estamos a ver agora é a queda em massa de várias figuras incontornáveis de Hollywood, e mais uns quantos devem cair ainda. Dai eu dizer, que acho que ainda estamos no inicio deste processo todo. O que significa isto para Hollywood? Chegámos a um momento em que temos filmes a serem refilmados por causa disto ou até que podem ser cancelados, como o último do C.K. Só daqui a um ano é que olhando para trás vamos começar a ter noção do impacto disto tudo.

[Petar Musa]

Ahh não ahah, nem pensei nesse prisma. É mesmo no perceber as consequências que isto vai ter na industria em si. Já tivémos casos parecidos anteriormente, como o Mel Gibson, mas eram casos singulares. O que estamos a ver agora é a queda em massa de várias figuras incontornáveis de Hollywood, e mais uns quantos devem cair ainda. Dai eu dizer, que acho que ainda estamos no inicio deste processo todo. O que significa isto para Hollywood? Chegámos a um momento em que temos filmes a serem refilmados por causa disto ou até que podem ser cancelados, como o último do C.K. Só daqui a um ano é que olhando para trás vamos começar a ter noção do impacto disto tudo.

 

Não acho que vá ter grande impacto, daqui a 1 semana, isto morre. Os casos vão começar a ser desvalorizados, uns por falta de provas, outros por tentarem ser proveitosos da situação e, principalmente, por vivermos nos dias que vivemos, por "faltarem" homens, que existiram, de certeza, a queixarem-se da mesma situação de mulheres que os tentaram abusar.

 

Toda essa bolha que se está a criar, vai dar em nada, tirando estes primeiros tiros sobre o CK, o Spacey e o Weinstein.

[DS7]

Hope Solo denuncia públicamente a Blatter por acoso sexual: "Me agarró el culo"

 

http://www.marca.com/futbol/futbol-internacional/2017/11/10/5a06144f22601d54258b4727.html

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Terry Crews Fires WME Following Groping Allegation Against Top Executive

 

ER Actor Anthony Edwards Says Director Gary Goddard Molested Him As a Child

 

Ellen Page says Brett Ratner outed her as gay in sexual remark when she was 18

 

Ellen Page

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“You should fuck her to make her realize she’s gay.” He said this about me during a cast and crew “meet and greet” before we began filming, X Men: The Last Stand. I was eighteen years old. He looked at a woman standing next to me, ten years my senior, pointed to me and said: “You should fuck her to make her realize she’s gay.” He was the film’s director, Brett Ratner.

 

I was a young adult who had not yet come out to myself. I knew I was gay, but did not know, so to speak. I felt violated when this happened. I looked down at my feet, didn’t say a word and watched as no one else did either. This man, who had cast me in the film, started our months of filming at a work event with this horrific, unchallenged plea. He “outed” me with no regard for my well-being, an act we all recognize as homophobic. I proceeded to watch him on set say degrading things to women. I remember a woman walking by the monitor as he made a comment about her “flappy pussy”.

 

We are all entitled to come into an awareness of our sexual orientation privately and on our own terms. I was young and although already a working actor for so long I had in many ways been insulated, growing up on film sets instead of surrounded by my peers. This public, aggressive outing left me with long standing feelings of shame, one of the most destructive results of homophobia. Making someone feel ashamed of who they are is a cruel manipulation, designed to oppress and repress. I was robbed of more than autonomy over my ability to define myself. Ratner’s comment replayed in my mind many times over the years as I encountered homophobia and coped with feelings of reluctance and uncertainty about the industry and my future in it. The difference is that I can now assert myself and use my voice to to fight back against the insidious queer and transphobic attitude in Hollywood and beyond. Hopefully having the position I have, I can help people who may be struggling to be accepted and allowed to be who they are –to thrive. Vulnerable young people without my advantages are so often diminished and made to feel they have no options for living the life they were meant to joyously lead.

 

I got into an altercation with Brett at a certain point. He was pressuring me, in front of many people, to don a t-shirt with “Team Ratner” on it. I said no and he insisted. I responded, “I am not on your team.” Later in the day, producers of the film came to my trailer to say that I “couldn’t talk like that to him.” I was being reprimanded, yet he was not being punished nor fired for the blatantly homophobic and abusive behavior we all witnessed. I was an actor that no one knew. I was eighteen and had no tools to know how to handle the situation.

 

I have been a professional actor since the age of ten. I’ve had the good fortune to work with many honorable and respectful collaborators both behind and in front of the camera. But the behavior I’m describing is ubiquitous. They (abusers), want you to feel small, to make you insecure, to make you feel like you are indebted to them, or that your actions are to blame for their unwelcome advances.

 

When I was sixteen a director took me to dinner (a professional obligation and a very common one). He fondled my leg under the table and said, “You have to make the move, I can’t.” I did not make the move and I was fortunate to get away from that situation. It was a painful realization: my safety was not guaranteed at work. An adult authority figure for whom I worked intended to exploit me, physically. I was sexually assaulted by a grip months later. I was asked by a director to sleep with a man in his late twenties and to tell them about it. I did not. This is just what happened during my sixteenth year, a teenager in the entertainment industry.

 

Look at the history of what’s happened to minors who’ve described sexual abuse in Hollywood. Some of them are no longer with us, lost to substance abuse and suicide. Their victimizers? Still working. Protected even as I write this. You know who they are; they’ve been discussed behind closed doors as often as Weinstein was. If I, a person with significant privilege, remain reluctant and at such risk simply by saying a person’s name, what are the options for those who do not have what I have?

 

Let’s remember the epidemic of violence against women in our society disproportionately affects low income women, particularly women of color, trans and queer women and indigenous women, who are silenced by their economic circumstances and profound mistrust of a justice system that acquits the guilty in the face of overwhelming evidence and continues to oppress people of color. I have the means to hire security if I feel threatened. I have the wealth and insurance to receive mental health care. I have the privilege of having a platform that enables me to write this and have it published, while the most marginalized do not have access to such resources. The reality is, women of color, trans and queer and indigenous women have been leading this fight for decades (forever actually). Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera, Winona LaDuke, Miss Major, Audre Lorde, bell hooks, to name a few. Misty Upham fought tirelessly to end violence against indigenous women, domestic workers and undocumented women. Misty was found dead at the bottom of a cliff three years ago. Her father, Charles Upham, just made a Facebook post saying she was raped at a party by a Miramax executive. The most marginalized have been left behind. As a cis, white lesbian, I have benefited and have the privileges I have, because of these extraordinary and courageous individuals who have led the way and risked their lives while doing so. White supremacy continues to silence people of color, while I have the rights I have because of these leaders. They are who we should be listening to and learning from.

 

These abusers make us feel powerless and overwhelmed by their empire. Let’s not forget the sitting Supreme Court justice and President of the United States. One accused of sexual harassment by Anita Hill, whose testimony was discredited. The other proudly describing his own pattern of assault to an entertainment reporter. How many men in the media – titans of industry - need to be exposed for us to understand the gravity of the situation and to demand the fundamental safety and respect that is our right?

 

Bill Cosby was known to be predatory. The crimes were his, but many were complicit. Many more chose to look the other way. Harvey was known to be predatory. The crimes were his, but many were complicit. Many more chose to look the other way. We continue to celebrate filmmaker Roman Polanski, who was convicted of drugging and anally raping a young girl and who fled sentencing. A fugitive from justice. I’ve heard the industry decry Weinstein’s behavior and vow to affect meaningful change. But let’s be truthful: the list is long and still protected by the status quo. We have work to do. We cannot look the other way.

 

I did a Woody Allen movie and it is the biggest regret of my career. I am ashamed I did this. I had yet to find my voice and was not who I am now and felt pressured, because “of course you have to say yes to this Woody Allen film.” Ultimately, however, it is my choice what films I decide to do and I made the wrong choice. I made an awful mistake.

 

I want to see these men have to face what they have done. I want them to not have power anymore. I want them to sit and think about who they are without their lawyers, their millions, their fancy cars, houses upon houses, their “playboy” status and swagger.

 

What I want the most, is for this to result in healing for the victims. For Hollywood to wake up and start taking some responsibility for how we all have played a role in this. I want us to reflect on this endemic issue and how this power dynamic of abuse leads to an enormous amount of suffering. Violence against women is an epidemic in this country and around the world. How is this cascade of immorality and injustice shaping our society? One of the greatest risks to a pregnant woman’s health in the United States is murder. Trans women of color in this country have a life expectancy of thirty-five. Why are we not addressing this as a society? We must remember the consequences of such actions. Mental health issues, suicide, eating disorders, substance abuse, to name a few.

 

What are we afraid to say and why can’t we say it? Women, particularly the most marginalized, are silenced, while powerful abusers can scream as loudly as they want, lie as much as they want and continue to profit through it all.

 

This is a long awaited reckoning. It must be. It’s sad that“codes of conduct” have to be enforced to ensure we experience fundamental human decency and respect. Inclusion and representation are the answer. We’ve learned that the status quo perpetuates unfair, victimizing behavior to protect and perpetuate itself. Don’t allow this behavior to be normalized. Don’t compare wrongs or criminal acts by their degrees of severity. Don’t allow yourselves to be numb to the voices of victims coming forward. Don’t stop demanding our civil rights. I am grateful to anyone and everyone who speaks out against abuse and trauma they have suffered. You are breaking the silence. You are revolution.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Former 'Mad Men' Writer Accuses Matthew Weiner of Sexual Harassment

 

‘Supergirl,’ ‘Arrow’ Producer Suspended Amid Sexual Harassment Allegations by Warner Bros.

Editado 11 Novembro 2017 por bmfpcdm

[Rōnin]

Isto é que vai aqui uma açorda... Está-se a misturar alhos e bogalhos. Coisas sérias com coisas insignificantes.

[pedropb13]

Hope Solo denuncia públicamente a Blatter por acoso sexual: "Me agarró el culo"

 

http://www.marca.com/futbol/futbol-internacional/2017/11/10/5a06144f22601d54258b4727.html

Podias ter posto a entrevista original do Expresso. Apoiar o jornalismo em Portugal :mrgreen:

[Sumudica by Night]

Isto é que vai aqui uma açorda... Está-se a misturar alhos e bogalhos. Coisas sérias com coisas insignificantes.

Tipo o quê?

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George Takei Accused of Sexually Assaulting Former Model in 1981

 

‘CSI: Miami’ Co-Star Eva LaRue Alleges Steven Seagal Sexually Harassed Her

 

Can Hollywood Turn Sex Assault Scandals Into Meaningful Reform? Judd Apatow On How To End Abuse Cycle

[Puto Perdiz]

a leviandade com que isto está a ser tratado é preocupante. Temos casos de abusos de posição, abusos sexuais, casos a roçar a pedofilia (alguém referiu isso no caso de kevin spacey?), e no entanto não vejo nada na lei. Essa gente tem que ser punida por lei.

Sempre houve boatos de abusos sexuais, de imposição para se poder trabalhar em hollywood, pedófilia, no entanto a lei do silêncio imperava e custa-me ver pseudo-defensores dos direitos humanos saberem disto tudo terem estado calados e serem coniventes com estas práticas. Cambada de hipócritas.